InfoSec to Insanity

Episode #43 – It’s Not Real Until It Hurts: Why No One Demands Change

August 11, 2025·1h 20m
Episode Description from the Publisher

Part 2: It’s Not Real Until It Hurts Cybersecurity doesn’t change because we know better. It changes because someone bleeds. Not until the breach is splashed across headlines. Not until patients are turned away mid-surgery. Not until your CEO’s kid finds their identity on the dark web. In Part 2 of our six-part series, Accountability in Cybersecurity is Broken, Evan Francen (30+ years of cyber trench warfare) and Matt Goodacre (logic ninja, cyber smartass) rip into the ugly truth: in this industry, pain is the only language leaders understand.We’re talking WTF news—from grounded airlines to vishing attacks against Google—CISO Humor that’ll make you laugh-cry, and a no-B.S. deep dive into why our so-called “leaders” only act after the damage is done. You’ll walk away with a “fix list” for pain-proofing your security strategy, so maybe next time you don’t have to bleed to get budget.If you’ve ever warned about a risk months in advance, only to be ignored until disaster hit—this one’s for you. You’re not crazy. You’re just ahead of the blast radius.This ain’t your compliance department’s podcast. This is InfoSec to Insanity.

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