
This episode explores how music can regulate the nervous system, build belonging, and help people feel safe in communal playing spaces. Tara Connaghan is joined by Louise Kelly, a consultant music therapist from the North of Ireland, TEDx speaker, and co-founder of Resilient Rhythms, whose perspective connects traditional music with anxiety, confidence, and connection.We discuss why some players sit on the periphery, why others play loudly or keep leaving and returning, and how those behaviours can be understood through fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses rather than judgment.Chapters00:00 - Music as shared nervous system regulation00:44 - Introduction to Louise Kelly and the episode’s focus03:02 - Louise’s background in music therapy and why she speaks publicly about music’s power04:32 - The TEDx selection process and the journey to speaking on stage06:24 - Why music is a biological necessity, not just entertainment07:46 - Sessions, teamwork, and rhythm as connection09:01 - Growing up outside the Irish music tradition and feeling drawn in10:55 - Discovering session etiquette through a therapist’s lens12:49 - The nervous system’s job: keeping us safe13:45 - Fight, flight, freeze, and fawn in session behaviour15:05 - Loud playing as a possible fight response16:33 - Playing louder after being ignored elsewhere20:03 - Shy entry, fawning, and freeze in newcomers21:00 - Humour and repeated movement as safety behaviours22:25 - Watching body language and seat choice from the outside23:39 - Why confrontation often pushes musicians toward flight24:34 - Cultural identity, language, and why the tradition matters so deeply25:08 - Louise rejoining beginner trad life through North Coast Antrim26:43 - Practicing a session at home by recording and replaying it28:26 - Therapy, music, and the value of repetition29:44 - Confidence, anxiety, and finding a voice later in life31:24 - Teenagers, music, and why young people live inside sound32:28 - Why adults lose sight of music’s value36:05 - What really stops newcomers is fear of getting it wrong38:53 - How shame is learned through family and society40:08 - School messages that damage confidence in music41:16 - Everyone can participate without being “a trained singer”42:06 - Walking in circles, staying on the periphery, and feeling safe first43:19 - The sweet spot where musicians become one44:17 - Coping strategies for anxiety and choosing music as support46:20 - Breath work, self-awareness, and self-expression as regulation tools48:08 - Session rules as a way to protect safety, not exclude people49:28 - Mind-body awareness in music and in everyday life50:44 - Music as mindfulness and being present in the moment54:09 - Slow sessions as beginner-safe spaces and why they matter57:47 - Session vibe, belonging, and why context changes everything59:39 - Louise’s advice for listeners: be open, curious, and avoid perfectionism61:34 - A memory of belonging in a school traditional group63:48 - The tune that still moves Louise and why music stays personal64:32 - Closing reflections on reopening a long-closed doorwayResources:Louise Kelly, TedX Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKezQB0A3Ehttps://resilientrhythms.co.uk/https://www.sessionetiquette.com/questionnaireIn Tune with Tradition - Private Session Experience: https://www.sessionetiquette.com/retreat
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