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- 1 weeks ago40 min
How to Build a Side Project That Goes Global Before You Graduate with Anna and Viv from Toastie
Episode SummaryAnna Zhou and Vivian Shen, the co-founders of Toastie, join Georgie Healy for one of the warmest and most personal conversations the show has had. Two software engineers at Google by day, they have quietly built one of the most thoughtful health tracking apps in the world by night, all without spending a single dollar on marketing.Toastie was born from a problem they were both living. Anna was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and handed a few photocopied sheets to figure out the rest of her life from. Viv has been managing PCOS for years, experimenting with medications and diets on her own. They realised the tools available simply were not built for people like them, so they built one themselves. Today Toastie helps users track symptoms, food, body signals, lab reports and scans, surfacing the patterns and irregularities that would otherwise go unnoticed.In this episode they unpack why almost one in two Australians live with a chronic illness but no one talks about it, why slapping AI on everything is the wrong instinct and how they decide which features actually need it, and the cold LinkedIn email that landed them their first global partnership before they even had a product. They also share why ChatGPT and Gemini are not enough when the stakes are this high, what their users actually write to them in the feedback form, and the story of the user who quietly security audited their app and was so impressed they wrote in to tell them.Plus the early hackathon they won by faking the backend in real time, why they call themselves boomers when it comes to social media, the worst startup advice they have ever received, and a special offer just for In The Blink of AI listeners.🎁 Use promo code ITBOA2026 to get a 90 day free trial of Toastie🍞 Find your Toastie personality: https://toastie.au/quizTime Stamps00:00 Intro02:20 AI Hacks and Life at Google Sydney07:00 How They Met and Their Hackathon Wins10:51 What is Toastie and Why It Matters13:50 The Personal Stories Behind the Product16:23 How They Use AI (And Where They Don't)17:37 The Cold Email That Landed a Global Partnership20:00 Why General AI Models Aren't Enough23:25 Building, Prioritising and the Competition25:13 Why They Refuse to Call Themselves an AI Company27:57 Trust, Security and User Feedback30:00 Going Viral With Zero Marketing Spend33:33 Handling AI Hate Online35:43 Rapid Fire and What's Next38:45 Special Offer for ListenersIn the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
- 2 weeks ago44 min
The New Rules of Design (with Andrew Hogan | Head of Insight at Figma)
"Code is getting cheaper. Which means taste is getting more expensive."That one idea from Andrew Hogan reframes everything people think they know about competing in AI right now. Andrew, Head of Insights at Figma, joins Georgie to make the case that features are no longer a moat, and that the companies quietly investing in how their product feels are the ones building something that's actually hard to copy.In this episode they get into why 56% of non-designers are already doing design work, why the job title "designer" isn't going anywhere, and why anyone who's still treating design as a finish-line coat of paint is going to get lapped. They also unpack what agent management platforms actually need to get right, why design matters even more when kids are the users, and what GeoCities taught us about creative ownership that most product teams have completely forgotten.Plus: the prompting-together technique that turns prototyping into a team sport, why "no tech at all" is unnecessarily painful for parents, Andrew's verdict on Australian coffee, and why the golden era of the side project might be the most important shift nobody's naming loudly enough.✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
- 3 weeks ago48 min
How Springboards Built an AI Model That Actually Thinks Differently
Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/survey"Shit at the speed of light is still shit."That one line from Pip captures the entire philosophy behind Springboards, the AI company he co-founded with Amy and Kieran that is quietly pushing back against what the rest of the industry is doing. The three of them join Georgie Healy for one of the most thought-provoking conversations the show has had about what AI is quietly doing to creativity, and what it takes to build a model that breaks the mould.Pip and Amy never planned to start an AI company. Both worked in advertising and got laid off within three weeks of each other, which led them to accidentally build the first version of Springboards themselves to solve a problem they kept running into: existing AI tools were not helping them do creative work better, they were making everyone's creative work look the same. Kieran joined as their technical co-founder and together they have now released Flint, a divergence model designed to break the AI hive mind.In this episode they unpack why 69 out of 70 language models will tell you that time is a river, why mainstream AI has converged into one gray mush of sameness, and why the scariest part of this might be that most people will not even notice. They also get into how they built Flint to score 7.5 on novelty bench when the frontier models score ones and twos, why the smallest possible model was always the goal, and why they deliberately avoid making the tool feel too polished.Plus why humans are evolutionarily lazy and what that means for our brains in the AI era, the unexpected analogy about sourdough and alcohol that changes how you think about creativity, and the honest reflection from all three founders on being the self-loathing AI company in a space full of hype.00:00 — Intro02:22 — Introducing Flint and the convergence problem in AI models04:50 — Why Springboards is uniquely positioned to solve creative AI07:30 — What entropy actually means in language models09:44 — Real examples: random cars, pizza toppings, and where to holiday12:36 — Why this matters for the advertising industry (and everyone else)15:29 — Inside Flint: how to fine-tune a model for divergence18:38 — Doubling the score on Novelty Bench (and what that even means)23:35 — Try Flint yourself: who it's for and how to access it26:10 — Cognitive atrophy, taste, and keeping humans in the creative loop35:04 — Choosing a tech provider as an early-stage AI startup38:20 — What actually matters for founders in the sasspocalypse era41:12 — Rapid fire: copyright, cover shoots, Eumundi markets, and self-loathing AI✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
- Apr 16, 202659 min
How to Stop Your AI Agents From Breaking with Josh Clemm, VP of Engineering at Dropbox
Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyJosh Clemm, VP of Engineering at Dropbox, joins Georgie Healy to cut through the noise and get to what is actually happening with AI agents right now. Josh has scaled engineering teams at LinkedIn and Uber Eats, founded his own AI venture, and is now building Dash, Dropbox's context layer designed to make agents dramatically more reliable. This is someone who has been on the coalface of this technology longer than most.In this episode Josh introduces two ideas that will change how you think about AI at work. Context rot, the reason your large language models quietly get dumber the more information you give them. And work slop, the plausible sounding but completely hollow output that gets generated when AI tools are used without intention. He also delivers the most reassuring reality check of the year for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the idea that everyone already has a fully functioning team of AI agents working for them.They also get into how the index approach behind Dash solves what real time fetching cannot, why the next AI breakthrough might actually come from old fashioned software engineering principles, and the two engineers Josh considers the greatest builders of their generation and why neither of them was asked to build what they built.✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
- Apr 2, 202646 min
How to Build Distribution Before You Build the Product with Frank Greeff from Kinso (Replay Ep)
Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyFrank Greeff, the founder behind a $180M exit and the viral Founders Table series, is back, this time building Kinso, an AI messaging aggregation tool set to change how businesses communicate. Instead of retiring after one of Australia’s biggest tech acquisitions, Frank is diving back into the grind, sharing why momentum and purpose keep him building.In this episode, Frank reveals the AI hacks that surprised even his engineers, why scrappy MVPs may not survive in today’s fast-moving AI wave, and how personal branding gives founders a hidden moat. Georgie and Frank also dig into what it takes to self-fund after top VCs said no, attracting A+ engineering talent in a competitive market, and why “taste” will define which AI products win.Plus, Frank unpacks Meta’s $100M AI hires, the rise of deepfakes and how he protects his family, and answers listener questions on planning exits, building AI startups, and navigating AGI, UBI, and the future of work, all while playing a spicy rapid-fire round.Time Stamps03:20 – What is Kinso and why aggregate business messaging06:15 – Why Frank couldn’t retire after a $180M exit10:45 – Hack of the Week: how non-technical founders can challenge engineers with AI14:30 – Why Frank thinks MVPs can’t be scrappy anymore18:00 – Building a founding team: attracting top AI engineering talent23:30 – Meta’s $100M AI hires and how Kinso competes26:40 – Why VCs rejected Kinso and why Frank’s self-funding30:50 – Taste as a moat: what makes great AI products stand out33:00 – How building an AI startup differs from RealBase36:00 – Planning for exits: documentation and timing40:30 – Deepfakes and Frank’s “secret password” strategy43:20 – Rapid Fire: AGI, UBI, future of work, and moreResources Mentioned🌐 Kinso – https://www.kinso.ai/🔗 Frank Greeff on LinkedIn – / frankgreeff✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
- Mar 19, 202645 min
The Right and Wrong Way to Use AI Agents in Customer Service with Jason Maynard, CTO of Zendesk
Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyJason Maynard, CTO of Zendesk, joins Georgie Healy for a conversation that cuts through the AI automation hype and gets to what is actually happening on the front lines of customer service.Jason shares the framework every business needs right now for deciding where automation genuinely helps customers and where it quietly destroys trust. He introduces the dolphin problem, the counterintuitive reason why the brands that listen hardest to complaints end up winning the most. And he explains why, despite everything you are hearing about AI replacing jobs, customer service job postings in the United States went up 10% in 2025.They also get into digital snap and how to design your way out of it, why your AI agent is really just an extension of your brand identity, a brand new role emerging inside service organisations that looks a lot like what happened to marketing in the early 2000s, and three rapid fire scenarios that reveal exactly when you need a human and when you do not.This is one of the most grounded and practical conversations we have had on the show about what AI in customer service actually looks like when it is done well.✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
- Mar 12, 202636 min
How to build faster with AI in 2026
Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryJeanne DeWitt Grosser, Chief Operating Officer at Vercel, joins Georgie in Sydney to discuss what the shift to agentic AI actually means for developers, founders, and enterprise teams in 2026. Jeanne shares why the primitives required to build reliable agents at scale have only just arrived, and what that means for companies still stitching together fragmented infrastructure.They explore Vercel's product suite, the real-world application of vibe coding for non-technical builders, and why Next.js has become the default framework that AI models reach for unprompted. Jeanne also breaks down the go-to-market and engineering alignment model Vercel has built internally, and the design partnership approach, refined at Stripe, that turns customer relationships into a product roadmap.The conversation covers what founders should prioritise right now, why small and fast beats big and planned in the current AI landscape, and how to get genuine signal from customers before you try to sell them anything.Time Stamps0:00 Intro03:07 The Role of Engineers in AI Development06:01 Transitioning from Tech Giants to Startups08:56 Vercel's Impact on Development in Australia12:10 Understanding Vercel's v0 and Next.js14:53 The Future of AI and Development Tools18:10 Bridging the Gap Between Technical and Sales Teams21:10 Feedback Loops and Customer Insights24:03 The Emergence of Go-to-Market Engineers27:02 Empathy in Sales and Engineering29:50 Advice for Navigating AI Overwhelm✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
- Mar 5, 202643 min
The Future of AI Payments: Agents, Stablecoins and Going Global
Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryStripe’s Head of Startups, Hayley Hopwood, joins Georgie to unpack what the next era of commerce actually looks like and why founders need to rethink payments now, not later.They start with something unexpected: vibe coding a household chore app in 20 minutes. But the conversation quickly moves into much bigger territory. From OpenAI’s arrival in Australia to agentic commerce and Stablecoins, Hayley explains how AI is reshaping the final mile of every transaction and why payments are no longer just infrastructure, they are strategy.They dive into frictionless checkout, tokenisation, and the psychology of “one click” buying. Hayley shares why Australia will not build the next foundational LLM but can absolutely dominate in niche AI verticals like health, insurance, agriculture and education. She also unpacks why founders must build for global from day one, even if they are only selling locally, and how ignoring tax, currency and billing models early can quietly kill your scale later.Plus: is B2B SaaS actually dead, what jobs will change first in the AI era, why mediocrity will not survive, and what founders should do in 2026 to stay ahead of the curve.This is a masterclass in building durable infrastructure in a world moving at AI speed.In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 37,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Book a free 30-min demo https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgina_healy/Twitter: https://x.com/georgina__healy?lang=enThe Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Stripe StartupsFor early-stage, venture-backed founders – Stripe Startups is where to start. Enrol in the program and receive access to credits on Stripe fees, expert insights, and a focused community of other founders building on Stripe. Apply for Stripe Startups at dayone.fm/stripeStripe Ad_Nov 2025_02
About In The Blink of AI with Georgie Healy
Stay ahead of the curve in the rapidly changing world of technology with the In the Blink of AI podcastHost of the show Georgie Healy leverages 15 years in tech with a vibrant Aussie sense of humor to interview leading experts in Artificial Intelligence to unpack AI’s transformative potential and provide weekly commentary on the latest headlines.Tune in for candid conversations as the rapid speed of technology navigates innovation and ethics.The podcast's mission is to demystify the AI jargon and provide real human insights for everyone from the AI-curious to seasoned experts.Hosted by Georgie Healy, In the Blink of AI is a Day One show. Day One is the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators, and investors.Follow In the Blink of AI through Day One on LinkedInSign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups.
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