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- Apr 12, 20261h 17m
In Service to Spirit: Amazonian Wisdom, Soul Integration, and the Future of Healing
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Hamilton Souther for a wide-ranging and deeply substantive conversation on healing, humility, and what it means to build a life in service to spirit. A deeply trained and widely respected figure in the psychedelic space, Hamilton joins from the Peruvian Amazon to reflect on the spiritual awakening that led him from a conventional American upbringing into the heart of the jungle, where he ultimately apprenticed for years within the Matsés Amazonian lineage and dedicated his life to plant medicine.Together, they explore the healing roots of Amazonian medicine, what it means to bridge worlds with integrity, and Hamilton’s vision for a future in which people are empowered to cultivate safe, grounded self-practice in community rather than outsourcing all authority to a handful of gatekeepers. The conversation moves through especially rich terrain: integration as a daily lived practice, the role of community in psychedelic culture, spiritual bypassing, and the tension between transcendence and grounded reality.Hamilton also shares his provocative perspective that “money is spirit,” opening up a thoughtful exploration of scarcity, abundance, value, and the patterns that shape our relationship to resources. Woven throughout is a larger inquiry into soul, technology, and how ancient wisdom might inform the future of healing. It’s a conversation full of depth, clarity, and big-picture vision—with a few jungle sounds in the background to remind listeners that the forest is in the room, too.Connect with Hamilton:Website: https://bluemorpho.orgInsta: @bluemorpho_orgGaia Labs https://www.gaialabs.ioAbout Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Feb 3, 20261h 20m
Tonia Erin - Midlife Awakening: Ritual as Medicine, 5-MeO-DMT as Teacher, & Liminal Initiation
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Tonia Erin—a soul path coach, ceremonialist, and “temple weaver” whose work is devoted to ritual, remembrance, and midlife initiation. Together, they reframe midlife not as a crisis, but as a powerful awakening—a threshold where dissonance becomes intelligence, the body becomes oracle, and the soul starts calling louder than the old playbook.The conversation moves from the creation of an earth-built ceremonial “cave” (a living container that holds and transmutes energy) into the cultural loss of rites of passage—and how simple, accessible rituals can bring meaning back into everyday life. They also open an honest, nuanced dialogue about 5-MeO-DMT—including the tenderness of “dual reality,” the importance of set/setting, facilitator neutrality, and why integration (and often spaciousness) matters so much with this particular medicine.Connect with Tonia:Website: www.toniaerin.comInsta: @sacred_gnosisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toniaerin/Midlife Wisdom Circle: https://www.lanechangeconsulting.com/midlifewisdomAbout Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Jan 4, 20261h 3m
Victoria Angel Heart - The Pleasure Portal: Psychedelic Rewiring, Erotic Aliveness & Clean Consent
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Victoria Angel Heart—pleasure permissionary, embodied intimacy guide, and creator of Tap Into Freedom: Psychedelic EFT—for a conversation that’s more sensual, taboo, and body-forward than anything the show has explored before.Together, they open a brave (and very necessary) dialogue about what it means to bring erotic energy, voice, and desire into psychedelic spaces with integrity—without bypassing the very real history of harm, power imbalance, and boundary violations that make this topic so charged. Victoria challenges the “hands-off, say-nothing” facilitation model and shares her actively guided approach: blending EFT tapping, intention-setting, nervous system regulation, and post-journey integration practices to help clients not only surface unconscious material—but actually rewire beliefs in real time.They also explore the crucial foundation beneath all of it: self-knowledge. Knowing one’s yes/no. Honoring boundaries without shame. Learning to “bracket attraction.” And building the kind of trust where a “no” becomes a doorway to safety—not rejection.Connect with Victoria: www.tapintofreedom.loveVictoria’s music on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4pNTeoeP0F3ug7DbRa30bzBook a free Clear & Claim Session with Victoria through the end of January: https://calendly.com/calmmindopenheart/clear-claim-fb?month=2026-01About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Dec 20, 202541 min
Liz & Lily Integrate - Part 2: Ketamine as Sacred Support
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily flip the script. This time, Liz interviews Lily about her path with psychedelics and her long, layered love affair with ketamine. We trace her story from teenage mushroom trips and a recently unearthed journal entry from that time, through a 30-year hero’s journey back to the knowing that her core identity is love.From there, Lily opens up about her ongoing relationship with ketamine: how she works with psycholytic doses, why she journals during journeys, and the ways this medicine supports her healing as a mother, a trauma therapist, and a recovering avoidant-attacher. We explore memory, neuroplasticity, and how ketamine can become a recurring container for trauma renegotiation, reparenting, and rewriting old stories—especially when paired with practices like EMDR, hypnosis, mantra, cannabis, and Kundalini breathwork.If you’re curious about ketamine as a sacrament (not just a clinical tool), about integration inside the journey, or about how to weave journaling and music into your own practice, this one’s for you.About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out in Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Nov 19, 202531 min
Liz & Lily Integrate - Part 1: Invisible Dreamcatchers
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily flip the mic inward and explore Liz’s evolving relationship with psychedelics—from teenage mushroom journeys and college trip-sitting to a very “medicine-y” season of adult life. Liz shares how early, challenging experiences cracked open grief and family dynamics long before she had language for integration, and how those threads are weaving into her current work as a guide and soul-path coach. Together, they explore a recent stretch of heart-opening journeys, a powerful ceremony at the edge of life and death, and the role of prayer, synchronicity, and archetypal astrology in making sense of it all. Along the way, Liz reflects on her pull toward shadow work, her intention to turn more toward the light, and a favorite Jung quote on holding the tension of opposites.About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Oct 28, 20251h 4m
Sheenae Bunzel - Staying Human in the Age of AI: Sound, Psychedelics, and the Soul
In this episode of In Right Relationship, hosts Liz Chernett and Lily Eggers sit down with futurist and conscious technologist Sheenae Bunzel—founder of Solii & AURION AI—to explore how we stay deeply human in the age of AI. From the frequency of the human voice as a compass for truth to the ethics of building non-addictive, soul-centered tools, this conversation weaves psychedelics, language, and technology into a vision for right-relationship—with ourselves, each other, and the earth.We look at how AI can become sycophantic and trap us in echo chambers—and what ethical, non-addictive design looks like instead. Shanae also shares her eight transformative “portals” (alignment, embodiment, phoenix, integration, and more) that turn insight into practice. From there, we imagine frequency-based value systems, reciprocity with nature, and even hologram-assisted parts work. If you’re curious about an equitable future where technology amplifies our irreplaceable human gifts, this one’s for you. Connect with Sheenae: www.thesolii.comIG: @the.solii(Liz’s new offering) The Oracle Within: A Mythopoetic Explorers Studio https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/the-oracle-withinAbout Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Oct 4, 20251h 3m
In Right Relationship | Colette Condorcita Schmitt - Neurodivergence & Psychedelics: Revisioning Models of Culture, Care, and Community
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz Chernett and Lily Eggers sit down with visionary facilitator and entrepreneur Colette Condorcita Schmitt, founder of Neurodelics and architect of the “Neuroethics” framework for psychedelic care. A lifelong activist and survivor of a catastrophic spinal injury, Colette brings a rare synthesis of lived experience, scientific rigor, and shamanic insight. Together, we explore her concept of the shamanic neurotype, why so many neurodivergent individuals are drawn to psychedelics, and how self-directed neuroplasticity can transform both personal healing and collective systems. We also dive into the patriarchal and neurotypical assumptions shaping today’s psychedelic renaissance, and how Colette’s new platform seeks to create culturally attuned, psychologically safe, and community-driven support for neurodivergent people on the margins of mainstream care.Connect with Colette: https://www.neurodelics.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/colette-condorcita-schmitt-89815815/IG @Neuro.delicsAbout Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
- Sep 9, 20251h 7m
In Right Relationship | Shelley DeMarco - Concentric Circles: Medicine, Motherhood, and Midwifing Creative Joy
In this episode of In Right Relationship, hosts Liz Chernett and Lily Eggers welcome their dear friend and fellow integration coach, Shelley DeMarco—a medicine woman, singer, energy healer, and mother of four whose wisdom and humility radiate through all that she does. Together, they explore the profound intersections of psychedelics and motherhood: the initiatory parallels between birth and ceremony, the beauty and challenge of repair across generations, and the sacred practice of listening to our children as spiritual teachers. Shelley shares her own journey of mothering, grandmothering, and guiding others in healing spaces, including her unique work with DMT and authentic voice expression. This heartfelt conversation touches on family, creativity, forgiveness, and the grace of self-correction, offering inspiration for anyone navigating the path of parenting, healing, or birthing new creations into the world.Connect with Shelley:https://www.sagesoul.net/Sage Soul Academy - https://www.sagesoul.net/medicine-woman-2024?srsltid=AfmBOooMS7zOe7RdX2DOeAe0Sw8hrFEFQt-f_z6DTThW8zZ2516cHMNLIG: @sagesoulwellnessAbout Liz:Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/About Lily:Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
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