How to Lead with Clay Scroggins and Adam Tarnow

Can You Be Friends With the People You Lead? - with Lauren Seymour

August 24, 2026·25 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Can you be friends with the people you lead—and still hold them accountable?Lauren Seymour believes you can. And she has some credibility on the subject.Lauren leads a team of roughly 600–700 people at Insulet, and she’s one of the best leaders I’ve ever watched when it comes to building genuine relationships while still having hard conversations and holding people accountable.In this conversation, we talk about:• Why relationships can actually make accountability easier• How to give difficult feedback without crushing someone• The difference between authenticity and oversharing• Lauren’s “trust triangle” for involving her team in decisions• How to lead people you don’t naturally connect with• What to do when you and your boss probably aren’t going to be BFFsIf you lead people—or work for someone who does—there’s a lot here you can put to work immediately.Subscribe to How to Lead for practical conversations about becoming a better leader at work.Music licensed through Soundstripe.Code: ZPOTOQKSGDXGFBG8

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