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Housing Matters is a podcast dedicated to discussing the importance of housing and development in our State. Hosted by Matt Pouliot of Pouliot Real Estate, the podcast aims to educate and inform the public about the significance of housing initiatives, the intricacies of development, and how individuals can secure their dream homes. Through engaging conversations and expert insights, we aim to: ° Advocate for the importance of housing initiatives in fostering thriving communities ° Educate the public about the complexities of real estate development and its impact on local economies ° Empower individuals with knowledge and resources to navigate the housing market effectively ° Spark meaningful discussions on topics ranging from affordable housing solutions to the legal and regulatory challenges facing developers ° Cultivate a deeper understanding of the intricate connections between housing, quality of life, and economic opportunity
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- Oct 7, 20261h 0m
41. Why Building Codes and Permits Make Homes Cost More with Maor Greenberg of Spacial
Why does it take so long and cost so much to build a home in America? Maor Greenberg, CEO and Co-Founder of Spacial, says the most expensive thing in housing is time. In this episode of Housing Matters, I talk with Maor, a builder turned technology founder with nearly two decades of experience in architecture, real estate, and construction. We get into building codes, permit delays, and plan review, and what it would take to build more homes faster without giving up safety. Maor explains how Spacial turns an architect's design into a 3D model, adds the structural, mechanical, electrical, and plumbing layers, and produces a permit-ready plan set checked against building codes before it ever reaches a city. We also dig into the question everyone asks about AI in construction: what happens when it gets something wrong? He walks through how Spacial uses a physics engine, its own controlled data, and licensed engineer review to manage risk and liability. Along the way, we talk about why plan sets have grown from about 15 pages to more than 200, how state building codes differ from local ordinances and planning department rules, why permit and impact fees can top $200,000 in places like California, and why builders are often blamed for costs they do not control. I also share the story behind my company, Atlas, and the roadblocks innovative building materials face when they are not yet in the code book. If you care about housing affordability, the housing shortage, construction costs, or why good ideas stall at the permit counter, this conversation is for you. What you will learn: How building codes, permitting, and plan review affect housing costs and timelines Why construction is so fragmented and how coordination errors create expensive rework How permit-ready design automation works How AI, physics engines, and human engineers work together to reduce risk The difference between state building codes, local ordinances, and zoning Why new building materials and prefab construction struggle to get approved How permit and impact fees add to the price of a new home About our guest: Maor Greenberg is the CEO and Co-Founder of Spacial. He previously founded Greenberg Construction, Greenberg Design Gallery, and VRchitects, leading large teams and delivering thousands of residential and commercial projects. Spacial's mission is to automate and accelerate permit-ready design workflows across the AEC industry. Connect with Maor: Spacial: https://spacial.io/team/maor-greenberg Spacial Services: https://spacial.services/about LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maor-greenberg/ Housing Matters is the podcast that covers everything real estate, from buying your first home to building your investment portfolio. Hosted by Matt Pouliot of Pouliot Real Estate in Augusta, Maine. Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@housingmatterspod Pouliot Real Estate: https://pouliotrealestate.com
- Sep 24, 202637 min
40. Can 3D Printing Fix the Housing Crisis? Francesco De Stefano of Caracol on Reshoring, Robots, and Building Closer to Home
What if the framing for a house could be printed in a few hours instead of shipped from halfway around the world? On this episode of Housing Matters, I sit down with Francesco De Stefano, Co-Founder and CEO of Caracol, a leading industrial robotic advanced manufacturing company with offices in Milan, Austin, and Dubai and a presence in 50 countries. Caracol builds large format 3D printers: a printing head mounted on a robotic arm that can produce parts a meter and up from a single digital file. The same machine can print a roof truss one day and a boat propeller the next, with no tooling, less waste, and faster lead times. It is the technology behind Atlas, the company I co-founded to turn recycled plastic bottles into building components in Maine. We talk about Francesco's path from Boston Consulting Group to a garage near Lake Como, what large format additive manufacturing actually is in plain terms, and why the biggest barrier to scaling US manufacturing is manpower, not machines. We get into the modern sawmill model of printing building materials close to the end user, the COVID supply chain lesson, and why an Italian founder chose Austin, Texas as his second home base. Francesco also shares the story of how his team printed our house framing overnight after our supplier's facility caught fire, and we close with an honest conversation about persistence and knowing when not to quit after a decade of building a deep tech company. If you care about housing affordability, construction costs, or bringing manufacturing jobs back to Maine and the US, this episode matters. Learn more about Caracol at caracol-am.com or find Caracol AM on LinkedIn. Housing Matters is hosted by Matt Pouliot, CEO and Broker at Pouliot Real Estate in Augusta, Maine. Visit pouliotrealestate.com for more.
- Aug 19, 202658 min
39. Act Like It's a Crisis: Rick Bennett on Fixing Maine's Housing Shortage
Everyone in Augusta calls it a housing crisis. Almost nobody acts like it is one. That gap between talk and urgency is at the center of my conversation with Rick Bennett, former President of the Maine Senate and current candidate for Governor of Maine. Rick and I served together in the Maine Legislature, and I have watched him do the work up close. But his housing story starts long before politics. Rick spent six years working in Maine's factory built housing industry back when the Oxford Hills had five factories and 1,200 people building homes for all of New England. Today one factory remains. Rick wants to change that, and in this episode he lays out how. We dig into his plan to revive manufactured and modular housing as a Maine heritage industry, including what Colorado did with about $40 million in ARPA funds to build a factory built housing ecosystem now producing 3,000 homes a year. For perspective, the entire state of Maine finished around 3,500 homes in 2025. One program in one state nearly matched us. We also get into the numbers behind Maine's supply problem: the 80,000 homes we need by 2032, the HARP home repair program helping 200 families a year while 2,000 sit on a waiting list, and the 18 month permitting timelines that stall projects before they start. Rick explains his statewide housing bottleneck audit and why he would look at the state's own delays before pointing fingers at towns. For first time homebuyers, Rick shares two proposals I found genuinely interesting: a state backed insurance program covering three quarters of a down payment, and a shared appreciation model that could bring a $2,000 monthly payment down to $1,200, with the state repaid when the home sells. We close on the topics that surround housing whether we like it or not: zoning and local control, code enforcement that varies from one zip code to the next, financial literacy in Maine schools, workforce training programs like JMG and Bridge Academy, and why Maine's electricity prices are quietly raising the cost of both housing and doing business here. Rick is a tenth generation Mainer from Oxford County, the son of a public school teacher and a retail sales clerk, and someone who has spent 40 years engaged with Maine's housing sector as a business leader and legislator. Wherever you land politically, this is a substantive conversation about what it would actually take to build our way out of this. Housing Matters is hosted by me, Matt Pouliot, CEO and Broker at Pouliot Real Estate in Augusta, Maine. From buying your first home to building your investment portfolio, if it's about real estate, it matters here.
- Jul 29, 20261h 3m
38. Harvard Law, McKinsey, and the Rules That Make Maine Housing Expensive with Aaron Chadbourne
Aaron Chadbourne got his real estate license the day after he graduated from high school. He sold his first house at 18 and took out his first mortgage before most people finish their freshman year of college. Then he went off and collected three degrees from Harvard, worked at McKinsey, and served as Senior Policy Advisor to Governor Paul LePage. And then he came home to run the brokerage his mother built. I have been looking forward to this conversation for a long time, and it did not disappoint. Aaron is the Designated Broker and owner of Demetria Real Estate in Greater Portland, and he was just named 2026 REALTOR® of the Year by the Greater Portland Board of REALTORS®. What makes him interesting is not the resume. It is that he can look at a housing problem from the policy side, the capital side, and the kitchen table side all at once, and he does not pull punches about what he sees. We spent most of this episode on a question I think about constantly: why is it so hard to build housing in Maine? Aaron's answer is that it is not lumber and it is not labor. It is the rulebook. There are more than 9,000 jurisdictions writing their own housing rules across this country, and Maine has its own version of that patchwork. I share a story from a property I was on that same day where a three unit building needed three separate septic tanks, even though the whole thing has five bedrooms and the 200 year old farmhouse down the road with five bedrooms gets by on one tank. Aaron walks through the sprinkler ordinance in Gorham, the roof pitch requirements that quietly ban manufactured housing even after the state legalized it, and the shoreland zoning question he still cannot get a straight yes or no answer on for his own camp. We also get into the first time homebuyer number that should worry everybody. The average age is now 40. Aaron makes the case that we told an entire generation to delay homeownership in favor of college and credentials, and we are now living with the bill. He breaks down what a renter paying $2,000 a month hands over in ten years, tells the story of a 19 year old CDL driver who bought an old farmhouse in Baldwin and built $100,000 in equity in a single year, and pitches an idea I really like: a preferred mortgage product for Maine educators tied to a financial education requirement. Other ground we cover: Why capital goes where it is welcome and stays where it is appreciated, and what that means for Portland versus Westbrook The difference between a code officer who sees himself as an enforcer and one who sees himself as an educator What the ROAD to Housing Act could actually change for Maine builders and homeowners Why only 5 percent of American construction is industrialized while Japan is at 45 to 50 percent, and what a building code rules engine could do about it Whether AI is coming for the real estate agent, and why Aaron thinks the physical world and human trust still matter Rent control, populism, and why Aaron would rather build ladders than freeze people in place If you care about housing in Maine, this one is worth your full hour. About Aaron Chadbourne Aaron Chadbourne is the Designated Broker and owner of Demetria Real Estate, serving buyers and sellers throughout Greater Portland and Southern Maine, including Portland, Gorham, Westbrook, Scarborough, South Portland, and Buxton. Licensed since 2002, his team consistently handles $30 to $50 million in annual sales volume. He was named 2026 REALTOR® of the Year by the Greater Portland Board of REALTORS®, has served as President of that board, and holds leadership positions at the state and national levels. Before returning to the family business, he graduated from Harvard College, Harvard Law School, and Harvard Business School, worked for McKin
- Jun 24, 20261h 2m
37. The Coliving Solution: How PadSplit Is Turning Empty Bedrooms Into Affordable Housing and Investor Returns
What if the affordable housing crisis isn't really a supply problem? What if the answer is already built, sitting in empty bedrooms across America, and we just haven't figured out how to use it? That's the argument Atticus LeBlanc has been making for years, and he built a company around proving it. Atticus is the founder of PadSplit, the largest coliving marketplace in the United States, with over 33,000 units across 40 states. He structured it as a public benefit corporation with a clear mission: help solve the affordable housing crisis for the 50% of American renters who can't afford their rent, without a single dollar of government subsidy. The platform has generated more than $150 million in savings for renters and over $5 billion in taxpayer savings. Before PadSplit, Atticus spent more than a decade as an affordable housing developer and contractor, starting with $10,000 in savings and building to over $100 million in real estate assets. He's presented at MIT, Yale, UC Berkeley, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation, and has been featured in The New York Times, Forbes, and Inc. Magazine. He graduated from Yale with a degree in architecture and lives in Decatur, Georgia, with his wife, four boys, two dogs, and a lot of chickens. In this conversation, we get into the real mechanics of how PadSplit works for both investors and residents, and why the coliving model might be one of the most underused tools available right now for people trying to build wealth through real estate in a high interest rate environment. We talk through how hosts on the platform are earning roughly twice what they'd earn from a traditional lease on the same property. We walk through a real investor case study where a guy earning less than $60,000 a year used a VA loan, house-hacked his way into his first PadSplit property, generated $15,000 a year in free cash flow, and used that income to qualify for his next mortgage. We get into the math on how a buyer who can only qualify for a $200,000 home might be able to qualify for a $400,000 four-unit building by presenting rental income to the lender. Atticus also makes a case I hadn't heard put quite this way before: that America doesn't actually have a housing supply problem. It has a housing allocation problem. He walks through the per capita square footage numbers from 1950 to today and makes the argument that you could solve the entire estimated housing shortage, all 7.3 million units, using less than 1% of the existing square footage of housing in the United States. The rooms are there. The regulatory and cultural frameworks around how we use them are the barrier. We also dig into zoning, specifically how local definitions of "family" are one of the most overlooked obstacles to affordable housing in America, how PadSplit navigates those regulations, and what Atticus is currently working on at the federal level to get room rental income recognized by FHA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac in mortgage underwriting. This one covers a lot of ground. Whether you're a real estate investor looking for a way to make deals work in the current market, a first-time buyer trying to figure out a creative path to ownership, or someone who just wants to understand what's actually driving the affordability crisis and what's being done about it, there's something in here for you. Topics covered in this episode: What PadSplit is and how the coliving model works for both hosts and residents How investors are earning approximately 2x rental income compared to traditional leasing Real investor case study: VA loan, house hacking, and $15,000 per year in free cash flow Using room rental income to qualify for a larger mortgage Why the housing crisis is an allocation problem, not a supply problem The per capita square footage argument that reframes the entire affordability debate How zoning's definition of "family" blocks affordable housing solutions How PadSplit handles placement, payments, conflict resolution, and legal exposure for hosts What needs to change at FHA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac to recognize room rental income The history of boarding income in America and why it's making a comeback Connect with Atticus LeBlanc: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/atticusleblanc PadSplit: https://www.padsplit.com Subscribe to Housing Matters on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@housingmatterspod
- Jun 10, 20261h 10m
36. Nurses, Teachers & Firefighters Can't Afford to Live Where They Work. Here's a Model That Helps. | Chris Moeller
What happens when the people who serve your community can't afford to live in it? Chris Moeller, CEO of Orion Growth and creator of the Pathway Communities model, joins Matt Pouliot on Housing Matters to lay out a different way of thinking about housing entirely. Not as an asset class. Not as a rent-versus-own binary. But as an operating system built around stable living. Chris has spent over two decades at the intersection of real estate, energy, and technology. After surviving Hurricane Helene, his work took on a new urgency. The question stopped being how to improve housing and became how to design communities that can withstand disruption and actually support the people inside them. In this conversation, Matt and Chris get into the Pathway Communities model from the ground up: who it is built for, how the capital stack works differently, and why the traditional developer approach keeps pricing out the very people communities depend on most. They talk pocket neighborhoods, adaptive reuse, net zero energy design, food systems, digital equity, financial literacy, and a deed restriction structure borrowed in part from the Habitat for Humanity playbook. They also get honest about what is broken. Wages have been trailing median home prices for years. The missing middle housing product barely exists. Teachers, nurses, firefighters, and police officers are choosing not to work in communities where they cannot afford to live. And most developers are still building to minimum code, optimizing for their exit, and walking away before the roof leaks. Chris is not doing that. Hudson Commons in Hudson, North Carolina is his first learning living lab, and it is already in motion. If you work in housing, local government, community development, or you are just trying to make sense of why the system feels so broken, this episode is worth your full attention. Find Chris Moeller on LinkedIn, on Substack at Chasing Arrows, and at pathwaycommunities.org. His podcast, The Edge Report from Brix, is available on Spotify and YouTube. Housing Matters is hosted by Matt Pouliot, CEO and Broker at Pouliot Real Estate in Maine. New episodes drop bi-weekly. Subscribe wherever you listen.
- May 27, 202658 min
35. Why Maine's Old Mills, Tanneries, and Closed Schools Stay Vacant (And the Organization Working to Change That) | Gabe Gauvin, Maine Redevelopment
You've driven past it. An old mill building sitting right on the river, windows gone, roof caving in, weeds taking over. And you've thought the same thing everyone thinks: why hasn't anyone done something with that? The answer is complicated. And in this episode, I'm talking with someone who is working every single day to change it. Gabe Gauvin is the Programs Manager at Maine Redevelopment, a quasi-governmental organization created by the Maine Legislature to unlock the state's most stuck properties and get them back into productive use. Gabe brings a background in place-based economic development, rural planning, and environmental remediation, and he has lived and worked in nearly every corner of Maine. He knows this state and he knows these projects. We cover a lot of ground in this one. We start with Gabe's path from the Kennebec Valley Council of Governments to the Central Maine Growth Council and now to Maine Redevelopment, and how working across so many different parts of the state has shaped the way he thinks about community investment and revitalization. Then we get into what Maine Redevelopment actually is and how it works. They are one of only four or five statewide land bank authorities in the entire country. Their scope covers properties that are vacant, abandoned, functionally obsolete, contaminated, or stuck for legal reasons. And their structure as a quasi-governmental organization gives them something most public agencies do not have: the ability to move fast, take on risk, and operate with an entrepreneurial mindset. From there we dig into the Hartland Tannery, the first property Maine Redevelopment has acquired into its land bank. It is a roughly 30-acre brownfield site along the Sebasticook River in Hartland that has had some kind of industrial operation on it for about 200 years. There is an estimated four to five million dollars worth of contaminated material that needs to be abated and demolished before any real redevelopment can begin. Maine Redevelopment acquired the property in January 2025 and submitted an application to the EPA Brownfields Program two weeks later. They find out this June whether that federal funding came through. We also get into the school reuse crisis that is playing out right now across Maine, the toolkit Maine Redevelopment is building to help communities navigate it, and a piece of legislation that had broad bipartisan support, passed the House and Senate, and then did not make it through Appropriations. That one stung a little to talk about, but it is important context for where things stand. And we talk about the economics. Because great ideas and community support are wonderful, but at the end of the day the numbers have to work. Gabe walks through exactly how Maine Redevelopment approaches making projects pencil out, including in some cases giving the land away for free to a developer whose project aligns with what the community actually needs. If you have ever wondered why these properties sit for decades, or if you are a developer, investor, or community leader trying to figure out whether there is a path forward for a site in your town, this episode is for you. Connect with Maine Redevelopment at maineredevelopment.org. Their full team contact info is on the website and they are active on LinkedIn. Housing Matters is hosted by Matt Pouliot, CEO and Broker at Pouliot Real Estate in Maine. New episodes drop regularly covering Maine real estate, housing affordability, economic development, and the people doing the work to move things forward. Subscribe wherever you listen and find us on YouTube at youtube.com/@housingmatterspod.
- May 13, 20261h 0m
34. Bath Iron Works Hired 690 People From Out of State. Almost None of Them Could Find Housing
In 2021, Bath Iron Works hired nearly 2,000 employees. 690 of them came from out of state. And almost every single one of them left. Not because they did not want the job. Not because BIW was not a great place to work. They left because they could not find anywhere to live. That story is where this conversation starts, and it is one I have been wanting to have for a while. I sat down with Julie Rabinowitz, Director of Communications at Bath Iron Works, and Dave Hench, BIW's communications and media relations veteran and former Portland Press Herald reporter of 25 years, to talk honestly about what Maine's housing crisis looks like from inside one of the state's most important employers. Bath Iron Works is the largest manufacturer in Maine. They build Arleigh Burke class destroyers, among the most complex machines made anywhere in America. They have been on the Kennebec River since 1884. They employ people from all 16 counties in Maine. More than half of their workforce commutes at least 35 miles each way to get to the shipyard. And since COVID, the housing crisis has made all of that dramatically harder. Wages in Maine have gone up about 38% since 2019. Home prices have gone up 79%. That gap is not just a statistic. For BIW, it showed up as tents. It showed up as employees living out of their cars. It showed up as a young woman in new hire orientation who had a job offer in hand and still could not pass a credit check to get an apartment because she had never had one before. So BIW decided to do something about it. They are now investing in an 84-unit attainable housing complex in downtown Bath, a 20-minute walk from the shipyard. The $22 million project is a partnership between General Dynamics, the Navy, Bath Housing, and Developers Collaborative. It will include studios, one-bedrooms, and a handful of two-bedrooms, prioritized for BIW employees and Navy personnel, with occupancy expected in summer 2027. There are already 87 people on the interest list. We get into all of it in this episode. Why BIW uses the term "attainable housing" instead of "affordable housing" and what that distinction really means. How the Rumford mill town model from the 1800s still holds lessons for what employers can do today. What L.L. Bean is doing in Freeport with a similar workforce housing model. What other employers, developers, and housing authorities anywhere in the country can take away from what is happening in Bath right now. And why, if we want to talk seriously about reindustrializing America, we have to talk about where the workers are going to live first. Dave also brings a perspective you do not hear often. He spent 25 years covering public safety and planning boards at the Press Herald, and he watched the conversation around housing development shift from something that was almost politically toxic to something communities are now desperate for. That context matters. This episode is for employers who are wondering whether workforce housing is their problem to solve. It is for developers who have not thought about knocking on the door of a large local employer. It is for anyone trying to understand why Maine's housing market is the way it is and what it is actually going to take to change it. BIW has been building ships for the United States Navy for over 140 years. Now they are helping build something just as critical: a real path forward for the workers who make it all possible. Learn more about Bath Iron Works at gd-bw.com. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this one with someone in your community who needs to hear it.
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