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Hire Learning with Oz Rashid is a series of raw, honest, and entertaining conversations with top-performing business leaders across an array of industries that focus on the one thing every business leader has to play a part in: finding top talent. The reality is that making the right or wrong decisions when hiring not only impacts you as a leader - it affects every aspect of the business. The goal of the show is to help business leaders learn new ways of approaching the way they identify and engage top talent.Follow us on:Instagram @hirelearningpodTwitter @hirelearningpodTikTok @Hirelearningpodcast. Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' targ
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Nimesh Mehta, Executive Vice President and Chief Information and Strategy Officer of National Life Group, has seen nearly every side of the business technology serves. After more than 14 years in leadership roles at Lincoln Financial Group, he has spent 18 years at National Life leading technology, strategy, customer service, and operations.We talk with Nimesh about why AI creates knowledge but not wisdom, and the move from deterministic to probabilistic leadership.KEY TAKEAWAYS00:00 Introduction.05:02 Why a 178-year-old company keeps its people by constantly reinventing itself.14:09 The shift from deterministic leadership to quantum leadership.17:13 The four parts of every job, and what happens when AI takes one away.21:51 Why efficiency on its own is just a faster horse.28:31 The hardest skill to build when future-proofing a career.38:51 A three-part dinner question that shows who a candidate is beyond the resume.43:57 Why a dinner with the spouse has ended candidacies he loved.46:38 The walk down an executive hallway that ended an interview early.51:47 Two words of advice for anyone early in their career.Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don't forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don't miss out on future episodes. Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid. To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDNational Life Group, where Nimesh leads technology and strategy:https://www.nationallife.com"What to Make of a Life" by Jim Collins, the source of the cliff, fog, and fire framework Nimesh describes: https://www.jimcollins.com/books/whattomakeofalife.htmlAeon Hire, the AI-powered hiring platform featured in the episode: https://aeonhire.com#TalentAcquisition #HiringStrategy #EnterpriseHiring
Aparna Chitale, Chief People Officer and Executive Vice President of Astronaut Operations at Virgin Galactic, holds a seat few HR leaders ever get, with one foot in people strategy and one in the customer business. Her career runs from first HR leader at Avaya India to a decade at Disney leading HR for the international parks.We explore how employee experience shapes the astronaut journey, why Aparna hires for a five- to 10-year runway, and what it takes to build a function from a blank canvas. She also shares the interview question she relies on and the bias she works to overcome.KEY TAKEAWAYS 00:00 Introduction.09:15 How a chief people officer ended up running astronaut operations.14:15 Why every HR professional should raise their hand for a business role.17:54 The HR playbook behind designing a customer journey to space.26:33 The case for hiring people for a five- to 10-year runway.28:21 The interview question that reveals more than a list of wins.35:43 Why standing up HR from scratch made hiring direct reports so hard.38:44 The interview bias that quietly favors the most articulate candidates.47:17 Advice for a 20-year-old self about courage and self-doubt.Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don't forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don't miss out on future episodes. Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid. To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDVirgin Galactic, where future astronauts can explore spaceflight expeditions and connect with the bookings team:https://www.virgingalactic.com“The First 90 Days” by Michael D. Watkins, the onboarding guide Aparna returns to with every new role:https://www.amazon.com/dp/1422188612“Multipliers” by Liz Wiseman, a book on how leaders amplify the capabilities of their teams:https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062663070“Interstellar,” the Christopher Nolan film Aparna says moved her the most:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29" target="_blank"
In this episode, we launch "Help Wanted," a new segment where our host, Oz Rashid, CEO of MSH Talent, answers anonymous questions from listeners in real time, without seeing them beforehand. Oz works through five workplace dilemmas: a marketing manager who suspects they're training their replacement; a founder whose hands-off culture cost him a senior recruiter; a candidate turned down after eight interviews; an employee who let a teammate take the blame; and a new manager who misses the work they were promoted out of. Along the way, Oz shares how MSH added accountability to a people-first culture and why he believes four interviews are usually enough.KEY TAKEAWAYS00:00 Introduction to “Help Wanted.”02:12 They asked me to train my replacement.05:06 The questions to ask your manager before the handover.08:50 A founder's no-micromanagement culture backfires.10:06 Empowerment without accountability equals entitlement.14:20 Eight interviews, then "we wanted more experience."16:18 Why you shouldn't burn the bridge.18:42 I let him take the fall.22:30 I got the promotion and now I miss my old job.25:25 Why companies need career paths beyond management.Have a question of your own? Send it to helpwantedoz@yahoo.com.Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid. To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDMSH Talent:https://www.talentmsh.com"Start With Why" by Simon Sinek, one of the leadership books Oz references on empowering teams:https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591846447"Leaders Eat Last" by Simon Sinek, the companion book Oz references on empowering teams:https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591845327Adam Grant, the organizational psychologist Oz cites alongside Sinek:https://adamgrant.net“Help Wanted” submissions, where listeners can send in their own questions anonymously:helpwantedoz@yahoo.com<span style="background-color: transparent
DeDe Halfhill, Founder and Principal Consultant of TAIOH Partners, is a retired US Air Force colonel with 25 years of service. Her career includes a tour with the US Air Force Thunderbirds, two command assignments, including a squadron in Iraq, and a role on the staff of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon.We talk with DeDe about the 1948 Air Force leadership manual behind her upcoming book, the story that earned her a place in Brené Brown's "Dare to Lead," and why emotional intelligence is the most important skill a leader can hire for. She also shares the interview question she uses to test for accountability and explains when confidence becomes a red flag. KEY TAKEAWAYS00:00 Introduction.01:54 A postcard in the mail, a persistent recruiter, and the start of a 25-year career.11:03 What fighter pilots taught a young public affairs officer about holding her ground.20:09 What a 1948 Air Force leadership manual reveals about emotion and the mission.25:27 The response at the Pentagon in 2020 that became the reason for a book.32:17 How changing one word in a question changed a conversation with a room full of Airmen.35:40 The hiring opinion most leaders would disagree with, and the interview question that tests for it.39:20 Where healthy confidence ends and a hiring red flag begins.40:46 A simple exercise that helps people see the strengths everyone else already sees.Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don't forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don't miss out on future episodes. Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid. To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDDeDe Halfhill, the site for DeDe's keynote and leadership advisory work:https://dedehalfhill.com"Dare to Lead" by Brené Brown, the book that features DeDe's story about her Airmen:https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/557595"The Upswing" by Robert D. Putnam, the book on America's I-we-I curve that changed DeDe's thinking:https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Upswing/Robert-D-Putnam/9781982129149"The 36 Questions That Lead to Love" by The New York Times, which DeDe cites as a model for interview questions that build honesty:https://nyti.ms/1BWQijj<span style="backgrou
Michelle Link, Chief Human Resources Officer of Maximus, leads global HR for a workforce of 40,000 to 50,000 people. Her career includes HR leadership roles at Corning, Cigna, BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee, PRA Group, and ADS. At Maximus, she oversaw the hiring of 16,000 people in four weeks for the COVID-19 vaccine rollout. We talk with Michelle about what gets sacrificed in emergency-speed hiring, why Maximus pairs AI training with human-centered skills, and her case for hiring for likability. She also shares the interview question that reveals true self-awareness and the career advice she would give her younger self.KEY TAKEAWAYS00:00 Introduction.08:53 What a team gives up when 12,000 new hires start on a single Monday.14:38 Where AI helps recruiters most, and the part of the job it can't touch.17:23 Why every AI skill in a mandatory curriculum is paired with a human one.23:26 A case for the hiring trait most leaders are told to ignore.25:45 One interview question, asked three times, that exposes self-awareness.33:22 How an AI agent quietly replaced a weekly competitive research task.39:25 The career advice that is easy to give and hard to follow.Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don't forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don't miss out on future episodes. Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid. To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDMaximus, the government services company where Michelle leads global HR:https://maximus.comEightfold AI, the platform Maximus uses as its skills and career hub:https://eightfold.ai“Vibe” by Adam Grant, the book behind Michelle's push for more team bonding:https://adamgrant.net/book/vibe/World 50, the executive community behind the Adam Grant podcast con
Toby Ramirez-Johnson, Senior Corporate Director of Human Resources of Omni Hotels & Resorts, started in the front office at the New Haven Omni in 1997. Today she sets HR strategy for more than 50 Omni properties, with a stint leading HR across the Southeast for Wyndham in between.We talk with Toby about what hospitality culture looks like at the front desk, how Predictive Index shapes interviews without deciding them, and how one shelter volunteer day became a nine-week job readiness program that put graduates on Omni's payroll.KEY TAKEAWAYS00:00 Why the candidate who feels most like you may be the wrong hire.03:05 A homemade training session that doubled as a job interview and launched an HR career.06:32 What brought a two-time boomerang back to Omni in the middle of COVID.10:01 Where company culture actually shows up, and it is not on the posters.12:27 Using a behavioral assessment to shape interview questions instead of making the hiring call.16:48 What a team map reveals when a group has plenty of big ideas and no follow-through.22:21 How a shelter volunteer day turned into a nine-week job readiness program.28:11 The one interview question that gets candidates talking like themselves. Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don’t forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes.Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid.To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDOmni Hotels & Resorts website:https://www.omnihotels.comThe Predictive Index, the behavioral assessment Omni uses to structure interviews and build teams:https://www.predictiveindex.com“Respectable Sins” by Jerry Bridges, the book that shifted Toby's mindset this year:https://books.apple.com/us/book/id1202947909“The Gap and The Gain” by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy, a book on measuring progress backward:https://connect.strategiccoach.com/store/product/01tOJ000009NYQQYA4“The Ultimate Retirement Guide for 50+” by Suze Orman, the retirement investing book Toby is reading now:<a href="https://www.suzeorman.com/produ
Andy Martin, Chief Technology Officer of MJH Life Sciences®, spent a decade in machine learning and AI product roles at Amazon's Audible before taking on healthcare's hardest data problem. He credits his Amazon team, who were on the incident clock right alongside him, with shaping how he thinks about ownership today. He built an internal AI accelerator that turns marketers, HR associates, and ops teams into working software builders. Andy also breaks down the interview question he trusts to reveal real thinking under pressure, and explains why AI's advances in protein binding and drug discovery could turn some of the hardest cancers to treat into something researchers finally believe is solvable.KEY TAKEAWAYS00:00 A career spanning classrooms in the Bronx to Amazon's machine learning teams sets up an unlikely CTO path.06:54 There's a sharp line between using AI to replace thinking and using it to sharpen it.19:38 An internal AI accelerator turns marketers and HR associates into working software builders.26:59 Advances in AI-driven protein binding are opening drug discovery to diseases once considered untreatable.32:37 Public portfolios may be replacing the résumé as the strongest hiring signal.35:53 The best interview questions carry real stakes, not safe, rehearsed answers.37:12 One small habit, checking every link in a résumé, reveals more than it seems.Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don’t forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes.Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid.To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDMJH Life Sciences® website:https://www.mjhlifesciences.com“High Output Management” by Andrew S. Grove, referenced by Andy as the management book he keeps returning to for how leaders understand systems and bottlenecks:https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/72467/high-output-management-by-andrew-s-groveVercel, the deployment platform Andy credits with letting non-engineers at MJH ship real, working software:https://vercel.com#AIinHR #TalentAcquisition #HiringStrategy
Jessica Kalinowski, Head of Reliability and Security of Beacon Biosignals, joins us to unpack how she took an engineering org from one or two releases a month to 130, all without a single AI adoption mandate. Her path runs through McKesson and connectRN, where she most recently served as Vice President of DevOps and Corporate IT.Jessica also makes the case that most hiring processes have grown bloated rather than accurate, and shares why she leads every team with a psychology degree instead of a computer science one.KEY TAKEAWAYS 00:00 A hiring philosophy built on trusting skill first, and managing what comes after.02:13 A surprise career pivot revealed right before the interview begins.05:16 One online certification course was the entire path into technology.13:03 Release frequency climbs from twice a month to 130 times, almost by accident.21:48 A governance lesson borrowed directly from the early cloud migration years.26:55 A blunt opinion on why eight rounds of interviews backfires.45:45 The single instruction worth giving a 20-year-old just starting out.Thank you for listening to "Hire Learning with Oz Rashid." Don't forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don't miss out on future episodes.Connect with our host, Oz Rashid, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ozrashid.To learn more about MSH, visit https://www.talentmsh.com.RESOURCES MENTIONEDBeacon Biosignals, the AI-powered EEG platform Jessica now leads reliability and security for:https://beacon.bioWHOOP, the wearable device Oz references while asking about Jessica's sleep tracking:https://www.whoop.comDisruptive Innovators, the podcast Jessica cites as a source of stories on leading organizational change:https://www.disruptiveinnovatorspodcast.com“The Phoenix Project” by Gene Kim, Kevin Behr, and George Spafford, the narrative-style DevOps book Jessica and Oz discuss without naming on record:https://itrevolution.com/book/the-phoenix-project/#HiringStrategy #TalentAcquisition #AIinHR
Hire Learning with Oz Rashid is a series of raw, honest, and entertaining conversations with top-performing business leaders across an array of industries that focus on the one thing every business leader has to play a part in: finding top talent. The reality is that making the right or wrong decisions when hiring not only impacts you as a leader - it affects every aspect of the business. The goal of the show is to help business leaders learn new ways of approaching the way they identify and engage top talent.Follow us on:Instagram @hirelearningpodTwitter @hirelearningpodTikTok @Hirelearningpodcast. Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' targ
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