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by Keion Henderson, Shaunie Henderson
Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson features media mogul Shaunie and husband Keion Henderson. The two hold no punches, deliver powerful relationship insights, actionable real-life advice, and revealing moments in their development as a power couple in the spiritual and culture spaces.
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In this episode of Grown & Growing, Keion and Shaunie sit down to talk about midlife pivots: the courage it takes to leave something successful, the fear of becoming a beginner again, and why letting go of a season doesn't mean losing yourself. Go to https://baskandlatherco.com and use code SHAUNIE for 20% off. What we get into:• Shaunie on the slow, years-long transition out of the show she built• "I was chasing my future and releasing my past"• Why she no longer has to make decisions out of desperation• Keion on giving up his NBA dream after tearing his ACL—and playing his best season anyway• The leather notebook that mapped out their first years of marriage• Why midlife is the rare window where energy and wisdom finally meet We also get honest about being misread publicly, protecting your peace, and planning for the next half of life instead of winging it. New episodes drop weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss the next conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What if wealth isn't the car, the watch, or the house — but the fact that you're healthy enough to enjoy any of it? Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://trymiracle.com/grown and use the code GROWN to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Machine Washable Rugs, Made Better. For a limited time only, our listeners get 10% off + free shipping at tumbleliving.com/GROWN #Tumble #ad Upgrade your everyday. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to: http://quince.com/growing. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too. In this episode of Grown & Growing, Keion and Shaunie Henderson unpack "The New Luxury" — why the real flex is health, presence, and the freedom to give. What we get into: • Why "wealth is health" isn't a cliché once you actually live it • The hidden cost of chasing status (and why the "I only sleep 3 hours" brag is a warning sign) • Comparison culture, social media illusions, and the pressure to catch up • Why some of the wealthiest people feel the emptiest • How giving — even in small ways — reframes what abundance means • Shaunie's obsession with health, and the baby dedication story Keion never knew the backstory to Plus: beets, watches from Walmart, and a heated debate about who really owns that hat. New episodes drop every Thursday. If this one hit, share it with someone who needs the reminder that success and fulfillment aren't the same thing. Subscribe and follow along as we keep growing — together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What if you had to date your spouse in the age of TikTok, ChatGPT, and DM culture? In this episode of *Grown & Growing*, Keion and Shaunie Henderson unpack what love, commitment, and intimacy look like when algorithms are running the room. They get into: - Why this generation has more information about relationships than ever — and more confusion - Raising kids (especially sons) who aren't in a rush to marry or start families - The difference between real love and "cultural love" when the butterflies fade - Choosing a co-parent carefully, and why picky isn't shallow - Deal breakers, dinner-table pet peeves, and the missing-front-tooth debate - Why you don't really know someone until you live under the same roof - How AI, DMs, and voice notes are quietly replacing real conversation - Phone calls, anxiety, and the lost art of just talking It's honest, funny, and a little uncomfortable in the best way — a conversation about protecting real intimacy in a world built for shortcuts. Subscribe and share this one with someone who needs to put the phone down. Timestamps 02:12 Dating in the age of algorithms 03:59 A generation that doesn't want marriage 05:36 Raising kids in the digital intimacy era 09:04 When the butterflies fade 10:39 The chewing test — small quirks, big deal breakers 12:20 The missing tooth hypothetical 15:33 Why real love requires patience 18:50 Ride or die in public, talk about it later 21:00 Wanting perfection while offering less 23:41 Why online dating can't replace real conflict 28:44 Prompting AI instead of speaking authentically 31:07 How this generation can build real intimacy 33:56 The lost art of the phone call 36:00 Voice notes vs. real conversation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Is the "soft life" real growth — or a slow way of avoiding responsibility? In this episode, Keion and Shaunie unpack the difference between protecting your peace and dodging the hard work greatness actually requires. From parking lot standoffs to holding doors for strangers who don't say thanks, Shaunie makes it clear: she's not looking for smoke, but she's for it. Meanwhile, Keion breaks down why he's less addicted to work and more addicted to outcomes. What we get into: - The real definition of "soft life" — and where it starts costing you - Rest vs. laziness (and why the difference matters) - Sabbath vs. quitting — a biblical take - How avoiding conflict shaped their kids, and what changed - Whether greatness is defined by you or by the people watching - Shaunie's athletic résumé (and Keion's honest review) A conversation about pursuing peace without abandoning the grind — with plenty of laughs along the way. If this one hit home, share it with someone who needs to hear it. Chapters 00:38 Keion claims he's an open book 02:01 Defining "the soft life" 03:31 When avoiding conflict becomes avoiding responsibility 04:44 Shaunie: "I'm for the smoke" 05:24 The Walgreens parking spot test 06:46 The pizza shop door-holding story 08:19 Rest vs. laziness 09:43 Sabbath vs. quitting 11:21 The "one mile" debate 14:10 Shaunie's targeted workout philosophy 15:17 Identifying the softlifter in your circle 18:50 Work isn't an idol, outcomes are 21:35 Greatness costs everything 22:49 Who gets to decide what's great? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Are your friends quietly rewriting your love story? What if the people in your circle were impacting your relationship more than you ever imagined? Today, Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson pull back the curtain on the hidden ways our friends, family, and social circles can influence everything from marital satisfaction to the dramatic rise in divorce rates. This conversation dives deep, drawing on surprising research and lived experience, to show how the company you keep might be shaping your relationship expectations, boundaries, and even your happiness.You’ll walk away with:- Powerful insights on how divorce and relationship trends actually spread through friend groups- Candid stories about protecting your marriage (or partnership) energy- The truth about “inheriting” relationship standards from family or friends- Real talk about when to support friends in crisis—and when to set boundaries to guard your peace- How to remain intentional, not reactive, no matter what’s happening in your social circleDon’t let what’s around you mess up what’s yours. Hit follow and join us for honest takes, lessons learned, and a few laughs along the way!Timestamps00:52 The friend who caught the divorce02:03 Complaints as fuel vs. fuel for doubt04:10 A 125% chance of catching it04:35 Lean in or back away?06:24 Extended circles and John's cooties07:13 Golf buddies and the blessing effect08:19 Confessions of a single wrangler09:31 Inherited standards from our parents10:36 Why grandparents give better advice12:31 Marriage as a collision of two histories13:15 The needy husband I don't have14:40 Picky wife, silent husband at dinner18:22 Leaving the pastor's calls at the door Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Why are so many young women leaving the church—not because they've lost faith, but because of how they're treated? In this probing episode, Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson tackle the generational divide that's shaking church communities and workplaces everywhere. The issue isn't just about doctrine—it's about culture, communication, and how we deal with correction and critique. Get ready for a candid conversation that unpacks what it really means to lead and grow across generational and cultural lines. Whether you've ever felt dismissed or misunderstood, or you're struggling to connect with a new generation at work or church, this episode shines a light on where we’re coming up short—and how we can do better. Key takeaways: Why criticism of behavior—not belief—is causing so many young women to leave church How trauma and life experience shape how we give and receive correction The impact of generational differences on trust, leadership, and community The push-and-pull between needing recognition and expecting resilience Practical questions leaders and followers must face to grow together Don’t miss this honest, urgent dialogue. If you found value, subscribe and grow with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Can something as simple as slowing down change your life—or your relationship? On this episode of Grown and Growing, Keion Henderson and Shaunie Henderson dive headfirst into how America’s obsession with hustle is creating a craving for slower, more intentional moments—often found on the golf course.From pandemic burnout to the curious language of golf, nothing is off-limits in this hilarious, honest, and relatable conversation. You’ll laugh, nod along, and maybe rethink how you wind down (or how you support your partner’s passion).What you’ll discover:Why golf is booming in the era of burnout and digital overloadThe real reason slowing down is saving more than just your swing—it’s saving marriagesUnexpected (and hilarious) secrets behind golf’s wild lingoHow partners negotiate passion, patience, and quality timeWhy supporting each other’s hobbies can be complicated—and sometimes comicalIf you’ve ever clashed over hobbies, questioned your partner’s obsessions, or wondered how to balance connection with independence, this episode will leave you thinking and grinning.Don’t miss the next real, raw conversation—make sure to subscribe!Timestamps:00:00 - Intro00:08 - Golf and Slower Lifestyles01:10 - Teasing the Episode Topic01:47 - Burnout and Intentional Living02:38 - Attitudes Toward Golf03:40 - Golf’s Pandemic Surge04:55 - COVID, Stress, and Golf Relief05:53 - Golf Obsession in Daily Life06:34 - Golf Language and Humor07:24 - Relationship Tension Over Golf08:00 - Playful Debate: Golf vs. Marriage10:10 - Golf as Sanctuary11:19 - Golf’s Popularity and Marriage12:13 - Why Wives Hate Golf13:14 - Restaurant vs. Golf Time14:30 - Quality Time and New Beginnings15:35 - Golf Store "Dates"17:19 - Separating Golf From Marriage21:06 - Vacation, Golf, and Compromise23:23 - Birthday Traditions and Resentment23:39 - Outro/Closing
Does everyone crave love, but commitment still feels like a disappearing act? This episode dives into the widening gap between wanting real connection and actually showing up for it—especially for men. Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson get real about why commitment trips people up, how cultural norms and emotional discipline play into relationship struggles, and why valuing something isn’t the same as protecting it.Expect honest, sometimes funny, always eye-opening conversation on why so many say they want love, but struggle to keep it strong. You’ll walk away with real talk that cuts past blame and digs deep into what’s holding grown folks back from real partnership.Key takeaways:The truth behind men’s desire for long-term relationships—and what gets in the wayWhy emotional discipline matters just as much as physical commitmentHow independence, gender roles, and modern expectations can sabotage intimacyThe difference between saying you value commitment and actually building itPractical insights for breaking out of old patterns and building healthy, lasting loveReady to rethink what commitment means—and what it takes to make it work? Hit follow and join the growth.TIMESTAMPS00:00 - Intro00:11 - Desire vs. Reality in Commitment00:55 - Why Is Commitment So Rare?01:44 - The Gap Between Wanting and Sustaining02:38 - Men’s Value of Long-Term Relationships03:45 - Emotional Skills and Cultural Norms04:47 - The Discipline Problem05:34 - Commitment and Comfort Zones07:19 - Instincts and Relationship Stability08:38 - Desire for Connection vs. Emotional Discipline09:09 - Fear of Commitment and Perfection10:14 - Men’s Rationalization in Relationships11:03 - Valuing but Not Sustaining Relationships12:53 - Cheating, Value, and Partnership14:43 - Managing Intimacy and the Role of Masculinity16:01 - Women’s Independence and Traditional Roles18:09 - Adapting Habits in New Relationships20:23 - Gender Roles and Household Dynamics21:34 - Outro
Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson features media mogul Shaunie and husband Keion Henderson. The two hold no punches, deliver powerful relationship insights, actionable real-life advice, and revealing moments in their development as a power couple in the spiritual and culture spaces.
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