GRACEPILLED with Hanna Williams

THE EROTICS OF TENSION: finding God in friction [w/ Fiona Nodar]

September 18, 2026·1h 34m
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Connect with my guest, Fiona:instagram.com/fionanodarfionanodar.comConnect with me, Hanna, your host: Art store: distantplanetdesign.etsy.comInstagram: @grace.pilledhannawilliams.com (bookings, conflict school, etc)patreon.com/gracepilled(join as a free member to get access to a collection of talks!)What if tension isn’t a problem to solve, but an essential part of what makes us feel alive?In this conversation, I’m joined by writer, mediator, and growth companion Fiona Nodar to explore tension as a spiritual, creative, and relational force. We talk about what happens when we stop organizing our lives around comfort and certainty and instead become more willing to meet the mystery, friction, and resistance inherent in being alive.We explore tension as the place where we come into contact with reality: in conflict, creativity, sexuality, relationships, change, and the uncomfortable freedom of having choices. We talk about why avoiding tension doesn’t actually make it disappear, the relationship between tension and transformation, and what it might mean to develop a greater capacity for the unknown rather than constantly trying to resolve it.Our conversation also wanders into love and projection, the humiliation of genuinely pursuing what we desire, free will versus determinism, duality and nonduality, and my perennial spiritual question: Can I have both? Ultimately, we consider the possibility that God may not only be found in moments of peace, unity, and transcendence—but in the charged space between opposing forces, where something new is always trying to emerge.

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