
Only a couple years out of college, I told my coworkers that I looked forward to being old. They weren’t just dismissive of that comment. They were indignant. On one level, I know why. I understood little to nothing at age 23 about the hardships of aging and caring for the dying. I hadn’t yet suffered many of life’s inevitable pains. At the same time, I looked forward to greater wisdom, maybe even defeat of some sins and temptations. I was excited about all I could learn if the Lord granted me years. Maybe I even had a couple Bible verses in my head, like Proverbs 16:31: “Gray hair is a crown of glory; it is gained in a righteous life.” Or Job 12:12: “Wisdom is with the aged, and understanding in length of days.” Both those verses are cited by Jen Wilkin in her excellent new book, Dust to Dust: Aging Wisely in an Anti-Aging World, published by Crossway. If you take my youthful naiveté at its best, I was recognizing what Jen distinguishes in her book: the world says to age is to diminish. But the Bible says to age is to deepen. Now in middle age, however, I experience the good and bad: the invisibility because no one would possibly notice my appearance. But also the freedom: because I have that middle-age dad’s superpower of not caring what other people think of my appearance. I didn’t realize how much I needed Jen’s book, and I’m eager to ask a whole bunch of questions now on Gospelbound. In This Episode: 00:00:00 – Jen Wilkin reflects on her mother’s death and the symmetry of life 00:00:49 – Why Collin has long looked forward to old age 00:01:20 – Introducing Dust to Dust and the contrast between cultural decline and biblical deepening 00:02:31 – Why modern culture values youth over old age 00:03:55 – Jen’s first moments of realizing she was aging 00:05:46 – How aging feels different for men and women 00:07:49 – Why many people fear becoming a burden 00:10:08 – Assisted suicide, dependency, and surprising cultural opposition 00:14:47 – The “chiasm of life” and how beginning and end mirror each other 00:21:02 – Why midlife offers a unique vantage point for perspective and wisdom 00:24:50 – Caring simultaneously for children and aging parents 00:29:12 – Why caregiving is not a season but a default setting of life 00:32:10 – How modern longevity has changed the experience of family and aging 00:36:25 – “You will not surely die”: the anti-gospel of age denial 00:37:52 – How suffering narrows our priorities 00:40:34 – Honoring parents and the fuller meaning of the fifth commandment 00:45:44 – Retirement, crystallized knowledge, and later-life vocation 00:50:46 – A theology of aging before a debate about anti-aging practices 00:55:33 – Jen’s regrets, sanctification, and learning to honor parents well 01:00:26 – Final reflections on aging, family, and hope 01:01:07 – Outro Resources Mentioned: Dust to Dust by Jen Wilkin From Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks The Screwtape Letters by C. S. Lewis — — — 📫 SIGN UP for my newsletter, Unseen Things: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/podcasts/gospelbound 🎁 Help The Gospel Coalition build up a renewed church for tomorrow. Let's Build Together: Donate Today at https://www.tgc.org/together 🎧 Don’t miss an episode of Gospelbound with Collin Hansen ▫ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gospelbound/id1499898207 ▫ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0kRYr5FTKr5ru1N7MR65Br ✅ SUBSCRIBE: ▫ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thegospelcoalition ▫ TGC Updates: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/newsletters Use code “GOSPELBOUND” for 25% off tuition. Learn more
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