Good Grief with Amanda Kloots

You Never Get Over Grief - Rabbi Steve Leder on Why Moving On Feels Like Betrayal

September 16, 2026·1h 19m
Episode Description from the Publisher

Grief is sneaky. And moving on from it can feel like betraying the person you lost. On this week’s episode of Good Grief, Amanda sits down with Rabbi Steve Leder for a conversation about grief and loss that refuses to be tidy - and about why "getting over it" is never a worthy or achievable goal to begin with. Rabbi Leder names the betrayal sitting at the center of every loss: the harder you loved someone, the more moving forward feels like leaving them behind. He explains why some degree of betrayal is required in order to heal, why letting go feels like the decision to forget, and why "there is no arrival without a departure." He also opens up about the grief of retirement, handing over the torch, and the wintering that followed - and about the 125 milligrams of Zoloft a day he says got him to this point. You'll hear why he would give back every book he's ever written for one more lunch with his dad, the room full of a friend's parents' belongings that still hasn't been opened, and the two moments - one from inside his mother's dementia, one from a billboard on a bad day - that changed how he thinks about signs. If you're dealing with grief, supporting someone who is, or you've ever felt guilty for laughing again, this one is for you. Produced by Dear Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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