25 years since 9/11, has AUKUS made Australia stronger?

In the five years since the AUKUS agreement was announced, can we still rely on our British and American allies?While most debate on AUKUS focuses on the United States and the promised Virginia-class submarines, the ultimate goal is the British-designed vessels. So how confident should Australia be that the UK can actually deliver?Acting British High Commissioner to Australia Dr Brian Jones joins Hamish Macdonald and Waleed Aly to discuss defence budgets, shipyard capacity, and the timetable for Australia's most ambitious military acquisition.They also discuss Britain's new prime minister, and whether Andy Burnham can finally bring the UK into its post-Brexit place in the world.Plus - how does the UK feel about China's increasing forays into the Pacific?Guest: Dr Brian Jones, Acting British High Commissioner to Australia.Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au