Giants Shoulder

#160 - Meet The Physicist Proving The Universe Builds Itself Out Of Information

October 2, 2026·1h 25m
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🧠 JOIN THE GIANT'S SHOULDER FAMILYBecome a YouTube Member for exclusive episodes, early access + ad-free viewing 👇 https://www.youtube.com/@thegiantsshoulder/joinGordana Dodig-Crnkovic is a physicist turned cognitive scientist and Professor Emeritus at Chalmers University of Technology, with doctorates in both physics and computer science. Across three careers she built info-computationalism: the idea that nature is information and computation at every level, from particles to minds. Her conclusion puts her at odds with much of her own field. Cognition arrives with life itself, which puts consciousness in a single bacterium and nowhere in today's AI.Expect to learn:- Info-computationalism: why nature is information and computation all the way down- Cell consciousness: why a single cell is already sensing, deciding and minimally aware- The Levin divide: where she draws the line Michael Levin won't- Anaesthetised bacteria: why ether switches off organisms with no brain- Machines that can't feel: why today's AI has intelligence but no goals of its ownSPONSORSGet Jenni Your Intelligent Research Assistant (GIANT20 for 20% off) - http://jenni.ai/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=inf&utm_campaign=thegiantsshoulderGS EPISODES MENTIONEDMichael Levin - Michael Levin: Bioelectricity, Morphogenesis, Platonic Spaces & Xenobots: https://youtu.be/LTBZRVKUwyMMichael Levin & Earl Miller - Michael Levin & Earl Miller: Platonic Space of Minds, Bioelectricity, Cell Intelligence & Neurobots: https://youtu.be/6mU5nN5nlLAWilliam B. Miller Jr. - Meet The Scientist Proving Your Cells Are Conscious and Intelligent: https://youtu.be/xrV5oGyyKSIMark Solms - Meet the Scientist Proving Dreams Hold the Key to Consciousness! Dr Mark Solms: https://youtu.be/nMWaQ1U6dccGUEST LINKSChalmers Profile: https://www.chalmers.se/en/persons/dodig/X: https://x.com/DodigGordanaChalmers Research Publications: https://research.chalmers.se/en/person/dodigGoogle Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=bvc5bBsAAAAJORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9881-400XLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gordana-dodig-crnkovic/LISTEN ONYouTube - https://youtu.be/D4jBgWV8BoYApple - https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/the-giants-shoulder/id1752486249SKOOLWant a full breakdown of your own conscious inner experience? Join the Giant's Shoulder community: https://www.skool.com/the-giants-shoulder-6526/aboutFOLLOW EVANhttps://x.com/evan_mcglTIMESTAMPS0:00:00 Trailer0:02:44 Physicist, Computer Scientist, Cognitive Scientist0:08:05 What Is Information, Really?0:13:16 You Can't Observe Without Changing The System0:16:14 Are Conscious Agents The Most Fundamental Thing?0:20:06 A Single Cell Is Already Conscious0:27:16 Where She Parts Ways With Michael Levin0:28:41 Can We Build A Machine That Creates Itself?0:33:38 Why A Book Is Just Food To An Insect0:39:40 You Are Trillions Of Information Agents0:44:09 Science's Obsession With Measurement0:46:40 Xenobots And The Cells Nobody Programmed0:51:02 Agency Or Just Complicated Chemistry?0:55:58 Why No Experiment Can Settle This0:57:22 Where Computation Ends And Cognition Begins1:01:08 Would Levin Say Gene Networks Think?1:03:37 Why Survival Might Be Essential For Consciousness1:07:07 You Can Anaesthetise A Bacterium1:11:08 Can Consciousness Be Written Down As Maths?1:19:31 How AI Could Help Us Understand Minds1:22:35 Should We Ever Build Conscious AI?.....Email for sponsorship enquiries: evan@thegiantsshoulder.com

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