Episode 525: Take the Trash Out with Devin Wall - Get A Grip Finale Part 4 of 6

In this episode, Michael and Greg sit down with Devin Wall, one of the inventive forces behind Louvers International, to unpack the infamous DLC report and the future of lighting standards. 🔥 Highlights: The history of industry pushback against DLC certifications (from mafia skits to cease-and-desist letters). Devin’s hands-on approach: walking the factory floor, designing real solutions, and tackling heritage lighting retrofits. Why many manufacturers see DLC as interference rather than innovation. The bigger picture: global standards, sustainability, interoperability, and whether energy efficiency certifications are even relevant anymore. Anecdotes from the trenches—cheap imports, failing drivers, and the need for real accountability in lighting.   ⚡ This isn’t just another lighting chat—it’s a candid, fiery look at how the industry can move forward with creativity, collaboration, and common sense. 👉 Watch now to hear why Devin Wall might just be the mad scientist lighting needs. Connect with Devin:  www.louversintl.com Instagram - @Louversintl Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/louversinternational Twitter - @louversintl YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/800LifesOk LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-wall-22856a15/   Sponsor: Louvers International, louversintl.com, @louversintl