Future of Freedom

Cameron Abrams & Ilya Somin: Should ICE Be Strengthened or Restrained?

February 18, 2026·29 min
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about ICE immigration enforcement efforts in the country. First on the show is Cameron Abrams, policy analyst for Next Generation Texas at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. Later, we hear from Ilya Somin, B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies at the Cato Institute, and a professor of law at George Mason University. You can find Cameron on X @CameronSAbrams and Ilya at @IlyaSomin. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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