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Welcome to the First Chair Podcast—the official podcast of PSIA-AASI. Hosted by the Professional Ski Instructors of America and the American Association of Snowboard Instructors (PSIA-AASI), First Chair features conversations with leading educators, instructors, coaches, and industry experts from across the snowsports community. Whether you're preparing for certification, refining your teaching skills, improving your movement analysis, or simply looking to become a better instructor, each episode offers practical insights and real conversations you can take to the hill.
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What if the secret to better ski lessons came from science class? In this episode of First Chair, George Thomas sits down with Joe Taylor to talk about a surprisingly powerful teaching framework: the 5E instructional model. Joe breaks down how Engage, Explore, Explain, Elaborate, and Evaluate can help ski instructors create lessons that feel less like a lecture and more like an “aha!” moment on snow. Joe shares how his background in physics, science education, and ski instruction led him to a simple idea: students learn better when they discover the feeling first, then put the pieces together. That means more student voice, more curiosity, and more learning that actually sticks. From wedge christies to steeper terrain, this conversation shows how the 5E model can make lessons more engaging, more memorable, and way more effective. You’ll hear how the 5E model lines up with the PSIA teaching cycle, why “explore before explain” works so well, and how research backs up this student-led approach. If you’re a ski or snowboard instructor looking for fresh ideas that are practical, research-based, and easy to remember, this episode is packed with takeaways. In this episode: Why students should explore before they’re explained to How the 5E model fits ski instruction Ways to boost motivation and ownership How to turn one skill into a transferable movement pattern Why this method works especially well for adult learners Simple, smart, and seriously useful for snowsports instructors who want better lessons without overcomplicating the process.
How do you turn a standard ski lesson into a compelling story? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas sits down with snow pro and professional writer Mark Aiken to discuss his latest 32 Degrees article, "Snowsports MFA." Mark shares his unique four-step framework—Movement Analysis, Fundamentals, Activities, and the Repeat—designed to help instructors stay student-centered and outcome-based. Mark explains why showing up to an assessment with a "canned progression" is a recipe for failure and why authentic teaching means treating every lesson as an exploration. We dive into the "Repeat" step as a tool for re-evaluation, the importance of an "effective bag of tricks" over a large one, and how the current PSIA-AASI National Fundamentals changed his 30-year career. Whether you're a writer, a slider, or an exam candidate, this conversation offers a practical guide to the artistry of snowsports education. In this episode, we discuss: The "Snowsports MFA" concept: Comparing a ski trail to a short story. Why "canned progressions" are presentations, not teaching. The "Repeat" Step: Why watching the drill is more important than doing it. Building an "Effective Bag of Tricks" using only the basic tools. Tipping the J: A case study in modifying drills to fit student speed and confidence. The Art of Style: How technical fundamentals enhance a skier's personal palette. Read Mark Aiken's full article in the latest issue of 32 Degrees magazine.
How do you keep a group of teenagers engaged or turn a repetitive boot drill into the highlight of a student's day? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas talks with Keith Rodney—Chair of the National Children's Task Force and US Telemark Team member—about his 32 Degrees article, "The Fun Starts with You." Keith challenges the traditional idea of "forcing" fun for students, suggesting instead that instructors should focus on making the environment enjoyable for themselves first. Keith explains how this shift in perspective leads to authentic enthusiasm that students can sense immediately. We dive into the CAP (Cognitive, Affective, Physical) model as a developmental lens, the "Empathy Pivot" for managing fear vs. exhilaration, and why "Professional Competency" is at the heart of purposeful play. Whether you are a new instructor or a seasoned pro, this conversation provides a roadmap for using your own passion to build trust and deeper connections on the snow. In this episode, we discuss: - Why forcing a fun environment often falls flat with students. - Using the CAP model to adjust your approach based on individual development. - The "Empathy Pivot": Distinguishing between exhilarating excitement and paralyzing fear. - Why teenagers and kids can see right through a "fake" teaching persona. - Managing the emotional environment to build lasting trust with your group. Read the full article in the Winter 2026 issue of 32 Degrees magazine.
What does it take to teach skiing for 10 years without a summer break? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas talks with Augusto "Rooster" Burone Risso about his decade-long journey chasing winters across the globe. From his first days as a J-1 instructor at Granby Ranch to the high-stakes terrain of Niseko, Portillo, and even Lesotho, Africa, Rooster has lived the dream of the "endless winter." Rooster breaks down the practical side of being a global pro, including navigating "Working Holiday" visas, finding employee housing in Japan, and the unique challenges of working for private ski schools in Argentina. He also discusses how the intensity of skiing eight-plus months a year accelerated his technical skills, helping him transition from a casual skier to a PSIA Level III certified instructor and Big Mountain competitor. In this episode, we discuss: - The J-1 Jumpstart: How a college break in Colorado turned into a lifelong career. - New Zealand & Australia: Navigating the Working Holiday visa and the "scary" commute to Cardrona. - The Private School Dynamic: Teaching in Niseko, Japan and Bariloche, Argentina. - Physical Sustainability: How Rooster managed the demands of year-round skiing for 10 years. - The Big Mountain Shift: How intensive training helped him conquer Big Mountain competitions and -the PSIA Level III exam. 📖 Read Rooster’s full article, "Around the World in 10 Years," in the latest issue of 32 Degrees magazine. Follow PSIA-AASI: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesnowpros/ Website: https://thesnowpros.org/
What do you do when the assessment sheet says "Did Not Attain"? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas talks with PSIA-AASI National Team member Lyndsey Stevens about her journey through the assessment process. Lyndsey opens up about failing her trainer assessment three times before finally succeeding on her fourth attempt. She explains how those setbacks weren't just hurdles, but essential learning moments that shaped her into the high-level educator she is today. Lyndsey dives into the difference between "passively declining" and "actively seeking" feedback, and why moving from the question of "Why did I fail?" to "What do I do to succeed?" is a total game changer. We discuss the importance of "Follow-up Culture," how to be a better receiver of feedback, and why examiners often enjoy being mentors more than they enjoy being proctors. Whether you are preparing for your Level I or eyeing a spot on the National Team, this conversation offers a roadmap for turning a "check-box" failure into a long-term professional victory. In this episode, we discuss: The emotional weight of seeing "Did Not Attain" on an assessment sheet. Reframing the past: Moving your focus from "Why" to "What." How to bridge the gap between being "at the standard" and proving it during an exam. The "Follow-up Culture": Prompting trainers with specific goals to get better data. Why being a good receiver of feedback is a skill that must be practiced. Read Lyndsey’s full article in the Winter 2026 issue of 32 Degrees magazine.
Are your poles helping you accelerate, or are they telling your skis to stop? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas is joined by Keith Rodney—chair of the National Children’s Task Force, US Telemark Team head coach, and multi-discipline examiner. Keith explains why we’ve moved away from the term "pole plant" in favor of the "pole touch," and how this subtle shift in vocabulary reflects a massive shift in how we move our center of mass across our skis. Keith breaks down his "Gold Standard" of the accelerating pole touch, the "Wild Pole Swing" for emergency turns, and the "Unibody" movement patterns of young children. Whether you're an alpine pro, a telemark enthusiast, or a children's specialist, this episode will change the way you look at the "two sticks" in your hands. We also tackle the age-old question: At what age should kids actually start using poles? In this episode, we discuss: - The difference between a "blocking" plant and an "accelerating" touch. - How pole angle affects the energy travel into your upper body. - The "Unibody" movement: Why 3-to-6-year-olds struggle with grip. - "Nose over Toes": Using the pole reach to find balance on steep terrain. - Telemark vs. Alpine: How pole length and the "lead change" work together. Read Keith’s full article in the Winter 2026 issue of 32 Degrees magazine.
Why do some students quit after one day, while others become skiers for life? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas is joined by Sebastian Crain to explore the deep psychology behind snowsports instruction. Sebastian teaches at Aspen Snowmass and Eldora, but he also holds a Master’s in the Social Psychology of Sport. He uses that expertise to explain why Self-Determination Theory (SDT) is the ultimate tool for modern instructors. Sebastian breaks down the three basic psychological needs—autonomy, competency, and relatedness—and explains how they lead to "intrinsic motivation." Learn how to move your guests away from just "trying it out" and toward a permanent identity as a snowpro. We also discuss how to deliver "informational" rather than "controlling" feedback to keep your students in the driver’s seat. In this episode, we discuss: - How Self-Determination Theory improves on Maslow’s Hierarchy. - The motivation spectrum: From ice cream rewards to flow state. - 9 statistically significant characteristics of effective feedback. - Shifting the focus from what you teach to how the guest feels.
How much of your message is actually getting through to your students? In this episode of First Chair, host George Thomas sits down with international ski instructor Joaquin Alvarez Amuchastegui to discuss his recent 32 Degrees article, "Enhancing Our Connections with Empathy." Joaquin has taught all over the globe—from the steep faces of Switzerland to the firm slopes of the East Coast—and he’s discovered that technical knowledge is only 10% of the battle. Joaquin breaks down the "90% Rule," explaining why your tone of voice and body language are the primary tools for building trust, especially when conditions get "sketchy." We dive into the concept of "Dimming the Spotlight" to let student learning take center stage, the importance of a "Silent Feedback Loop," and how teaching in multiple languages (Spanish, English, and Portuguese) can actually make you a clearer, more empathetic communicator. Whether you are prepping for your Level III or teaching your first beginner lesson of the season, this conversation will help you match your student’s frequency and create a more effective learning environment.
Welcome to the First Chair Podcast—the official podcast of PSIA-AASI. Hosted by the Professional Ski Instructors of America and the American Association of Snowboard Instructors (PSIA-AASI), First Chair features conversations with leading educators, instructors, coaches, and industry experts from across the snowsports community. Whether you're preparing for certification, refining your teaching skills, improving your movement analysis, or simply looking to become a better instructor, each episode offers practical insights and real conversations you can take to the hill.
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