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A Magic: the Gathering podcast looking out on legacy and beyond. Francis Cowper (FGC) and Jasper Murison-Bowie (JustJasper) discuss eternal formats legacy and vintage, plus excursions into other formats including cube, premodern and whatever else takes their fancy.
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Plus: a top 8 Premodern performance and Team Trios triumphs.After a summer of travelling, we’re back to recap a brilliant weekend at Eternal Mania in Hasselt, Belgium.We start with the 216-player Legacy main event, with Jasper finishing 24th on Welder Cam and Francis 41st on Cephalid Breakfast, before moving on to the team trios event, where Jasper played Old School for team Eternal Horizons (controversial) and Francis played Vintage for the Lightning Dolts, or possibly the Lightning Dogs.Francis then continues the story of his weekend with his win in the Vintage main event on Doomsday, while Jasper tells the tale of taking his Welder Survival deck into the Premodern Top 8. We cover our deck choices, notable matches, feature-match experiences and tournament highs and lows. DecklistsJasper's Welder Cam list:https://moxfield.com/decks/TflYs94cY0mTnaZsoiYLNQFrancis’ Cephalid Breakfast list:https://moxfield.com/decks/qBifAUiBYHK_cISDXhx0ywJasper's Atog list: https://moxfield.com/decks/pNasrBp-70WzEpn7XSJqBQFrancis’ Doomsday list:https://moxfield.com/decks/ntUjBCRr-0OogKRxQbcQbQJasper's Welder Survival list:https://moxfield.com/decks/bVWfAennj3G441il0yg-4A
In this episode, Francis and Jasper discuss a listener question: when a format has a clear deck to beat, how do you prepare for it? They talk through how much weight to give the top deck when choosing a deck, building a sideboard, and testing for an event, as well as some of the traps players can fall into when metagaming. They also consider the flipside: what to do if your deck is the deck to beat.After that, they catch up on some local Legacy events, including a very amusing Thursday where Francis built a mystery deck for Jasper to play completely blind.Finally, Francis rounds things out with a tournament report from the Spotlight Series Legacy Cup in London, where he Doomsday and managed to navigate his way to a Top 8 finish.HawkBlade (Initiative Crusher)Sloth Depths Doomsday
In this episode, Francis and Jasper start by discussing a listener question about how to choose a deck for a tournament. Exploring ideas around gameplay mentality and how to approach a tournament in general, they weigh up choosing the best deck vs choosing a deck you love. That leads nicely into discussion of a recent online Legacy tournament: the Ecobaronen ELMQ, and an unorthodox deck choice made by their friend Jamie: Nic Fit. They discuss the innovative list, featuring cards like Esper Origins and Alpha Deathclaw, and why it was well-positioned into the metagame.At time of recording, Francis was also looking forward to welcoming noted Dredge specialist Mahfuz van Gogh to the London weekly by playing a mono green Painter brew, while Jasper looked ahead to a paper ELMQ at the weekend. Finally, they wrap up with a brief discussion of some rounds they played against each other in Old School and Legacy locals and cast a glance forward to an xpoints event.
In this episode, Francis and Jasper start with some discussion of Francis’ latest innovation of a “Big Breakfast” list which eschews white cards for Stock Up and Ancient Tomb. Having lost to a Cephalid list featuring Stock Up in a league, his curiosity led him to exploring lists on mtgtop8 before he settled on the list he took to an unbeaten finish at his local weekly.Talk then turns to the new set, Secrets of Strixhaven, with cards like Flow State, Erode and Petrified Hamlet being evaluated for their Legacy playability. While both express concerns about the potential of Flow State, given Expressive Iteration’s spot on the ban list, they’re broadly optimistic that it will be an interesting set for the format.Lastly, they return to the topic of Old School. Francis reflects on his experiences at COPCon XXV, while Jasper has been buying a bunch of sweet old cards for his first forays into the format. Blue-red CounterBurn has caught his eye, and the pair consider the viability of playing an unpowered deck in a format which allows a full set of moxen, Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall. Big Cephalid BreakfastOld School blue-red CounterBurn
In this episode, Francis and Jasper kick things off with some Old School Magic ahead of an upcoming event: COPCon XXV, a local London tournament. Francis shares some insight into the arcane format (Swedish rules and Ravenna reprint policies), explains what the gameplay is like, and talks about his beautifully altered Esper tempo list. After that, they dive into recent developments with Paparazzi Painter, and share their thoughts on the deck following the Derby ELMQ. Tezzeret, Cruel Captain has commandeered a spot in the deck, but who knows if he’ll stick around.To wrap up, they discuss the latest ban list update: what didn't happen, what justifications were given for that by Wizards of the Coast and what they were hoping for instead.
In this episode of Eternal Horizons, Francis and Jasper are joined by a very special guest to discuss all things Painter and Goblin Welder in Legacy. Fresh off top 8’ing a challenge with the new Sewer-veillance Cam combo in a red-based Painter deck, former Everyday Eternal co-host Callum Smith joins the cast for a deep dive on the new deck. All three of them have been playing as many different builds and ideas as they’ve had time for, and even though it’s only a week into the new meta, some clear patterns are emerging. Your hosts explore what the core of the deck is, where their lists diverge and what further options might be available for refining the archetype.Drawing on listener questions, they also discuss how the new combo has changed bad matchups for the better, and generally been a shot in the arm for an archetype that’s been struggling to keep up with recent metagame shifts.Callum’s top 8 listFrancis’ 5-0 listPainter discord link
In this episode of Eternal Horizons, Francis and Jasper check in on the current Legacy landscape and have a look at some cards in the upcoming Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles set. To begin, they discuss the decks they’ve been playing at recent local Legacy events. Francis has been having some fun with Dredge and Miracles, and they’ve both been exploring a red Painter deck featuring Pinnacle Emissary. Jasper then reflects on his run at the Bath European Legacy Masters Qualifier: the more stock version of Painter he registered, constructing a sideboard, and broader ideas around metagaming in today’s Legacy field. What do you try to beat in a qualifier, and how confident can you really be in your predictions?With a look ahead to the Derby ELMQ, the pair talk through what they might register and consider how TMNT may influence deck selection and preparation in the coming weeks. Causing particular excitement is a certain Sewer-veillance Cam, which presents a variety of infinite combos with Goblin Welder. Your hosts talk through some of the options and speculate on where the combo might land in the Legacy landscape.
In this episode, Francis and Jasper talk about Premodern following Francis' top-8 success at a local tournament. He gives a rundown of his experience playing Psychatog and reflects on what he learnt about the deck and the format more generally. Jasper has also been playing Premodern, testing lists in search of a deck to pick up. He seems to have hit on something he really enjoys, Welder Survival, and waxes lyrical about the range of fun gameplay and deckbuilding options. In a departure from the usual Eternal-format discussion, Jasper shouts out Pro Tour Lorwyn Eclipsed, a great recent event showcasing a Standard format that has enticed him to build his first Standard deck in a decade.Moving on to Legacy, Francis and Jasper have both had a chance to play the blue-red Repurposing Bay Painter list they discussed last episode, and share some thoughts on potential changes to the decklist. They wrap up with a brief consideration of what might get banned in the February 9th announcement, but conclude that Legacy bans are unlikely.Premodern PsychatogPremodern ToginatorPremodern Welder TinkerPremodern Welder SurivalPT Lorwyn Eclipsed coveragePT Lorwyn Eclipsed - Izzet ElementalsLegacy Repurposing Bay Painter (weekly list)Legacy Repurposing Bay Painter (blasts main) Intro & outro music: King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard - ‘Inner Cell’ & ‘Horology’00:00:00 Introduction00:03:42 Premodern Psychatog00:11:53 Tournament report00:24:47 Reflecting on Psychatog's strengths and weaknesses00:27:18 Jasper's search for a Premodern deck00:31:43 RG Welder Survival00:35:41 Gameplay and decklist considerations00:43:34 Pro Tour Lorwyn Eclipsed00:45:53 Standard top 8 decklists00:53:20 Legacy Repurposing Bay Painter01:03:31 Refining Repurposing Bay01:06:32 Legacy B&R announcement predictions
A Magic: the Gathering podcast looking out on legacy and beyond. Francis Cowper (FGC) and Jasper Murison-Bowie (JustJasper) discuss eternal formats legacy and vintage, plus excursions into other formats including cube, premodern and whatever else takes their fancy.
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