Chasing the Dream, Dodging the Crash

Wilmer and Freddy know what it feels like to hit the wall, and in this episode they’re talking about what burnout really looks like. From 200‑episode seasons to coming home with almost nothing left in the tank, they open up about the cost of staying on top, and what it takes to protect your joy, your health, and the people you’re doing it all for.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.