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I Warned You AI Would Hack Us — My 2023 Interview Aged Terrifyingly Well

August 20, 2026·1h 3m
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In April 2023, weeks after GPT-4 launched, when many were saying it was just a "stochastic parrot", I went on AdQuick's Madvertising podcast hosted by Adam Singer and warned that GPT was "about to be the strongest hacker the world has ever known".Watch that conversation, which also covered the Web3 bubble and AI doom more broadly, and judge for yourself how my claims are holding up.Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6gNwZWY-T8Timestamps00:00:00 — Adam Introduces Liron00:02:03 — Liron's P(Doom) Poll00:03:24 — Web3 Postmortem00:05:05 — Axie Infinity and Hollow Abstractions00:07:54 — Brand Marketers' Metaverse FOMO00:13:33 — Near-Term AI: Elevator to Heaven00:16:46 — AI at Relationship Hero00:18:25 — From Chatbots to Bricking the Universe00:20:17 — The Passive Income Doom Scenario00:22:58 — 50 Orders of Magnitude Smarter00:26:10 — Accelerationism and Transhumanism00:28:51 — Why There's No Off Button00:31:00 — Can't We Hard-Code Safeguards?00:33:13 — CRISPR, Nukes, and Fusion00:35:40 — AI Doom vs. Climate Change00:39:10 — Nanotechnology Endgame00:41:45 — AI Attackers vs. AI Defenders00:43:28 — The Ethics of AI Persuasion00:46:41 — The Blue Sky Scenario00:49:04 — Will AI Kill Craft?00:51:13 — Stuck Culture and Hollywood Sequels00:54:50 — The Pause Letter: Don't Train GPT-500:59:00 — Worldcoin and Proof of Humanity01:00:44 — "You Probably Won't Die of Old Age"01:01:52 — Wrap-UpOriginal episode: https://madvertising.buzzsprout.com/2118560/episodes/12603815-liron-shapira-web-3-mania-cybersecurity-how-ai-could-brick-the-universe-madvertising-6LinksADAM SINGER & MADVERTISINGAdam Singer on X: https://x.com/AdamSingerMadvertising by AdQuick (the original show): https://madvertising.buzzsprout.com/LIRON'S PROJECTS MENTIONEDBloated MVP (Liron's blog on hollow abstractions): https://www.bloatedmvp.com/REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE"Pause Giant AI Experiments" open letter (FLI, March 2023): https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/Eliezer Yudkowsky — "Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down" (TIME, March 2023): https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/Rob Miles AI Safety on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/robertmilesaiEngines of Creation by Eric Drexler: https://www.amazon.com/Engines-Creation-Nanotechnology-Library-Science/dp/0385199732---Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

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