He Tried to Get Her Kicked Out of Office. Then He Knocked on Her Door.

Bob Hathcock helped launch a campaign to remove Julie Spilsbury from office. Now he's walking into her home—and neither of them knows how this conversation will end. In Episode 4 of Dispatches from the Divide, a bitter Mesa, Arizona, recall election fueled by political polarization, the 2024 election, and deep disagreements over local politics becomes intensely personal. Julie believes she followed her conscience. Bob believes she betrayed the conservative district that elected her. Now, with election day approaching, they finally sit down face to face. What happens when the person on the other side is suddenly sitting on your couch? —------- Subscribe to Dispatches from the Divide for more true stories of ordinary people in extraordinary situations that take an unexpected turn. Hosted by Monica Guzman.  —----- Dispatches from the Divide is a co-production of BYUradio, Disagree Better and Braver Angels. Connect with us on social media @DispatchesfromtheDivide If you’re enjoying the podcast, you’ll love the new documentary “A House United.” Find a screening near you: https://www.jojofilm.co.uk/ahouseunited More about Disagree Better: https://disagreebetter.us/ More about Braver Angels: https://braverangels.org/ More podcasts from BYUradio: https://www.byuradio.org/ Listen to Monica Guzman’s other podcast “A Braver Way” https://www.moniguzman.com/abraverway —------- CHAPTERS (0:00) Intro (0:15) Recall Rivals Face Off (1:33) Couch Talk And Tears (2:29) Why Bob Felt Betrayed (5:18) Campaign Turns Ugly (7:06) Small Gestures Of Humanity (8:19) Election Night Fallout (9:49) Staying In Church Community (13:55) Love Over Civility Talk (18:07) Lunch With Former Opponent (19:50) Politically Homeless After Recall (22:29) Return Day And Closing #DispatchesFromTheDivide #BraverAngels #DisagreeBetter #BYUradio #JulieSpilsbury #ArizonaPolitics #RecallElection #LocalPolitics #PoliticalPolarization #BridgingDivides