DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling

Backup S3, Google Drive, iCloud, Notion with Plakar

March 20, 2026·1h 9m
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Bret is joined by the founders of Plakar - Julien Mangeard and Gilles Chehade - to nerd out over backup engineering. The kind where you're building your own file formats and cryptographic layers, not just wiring up cron jobs. We get into how Plakar deduplicates and encrypts at the source so your cloud provider never sees your keys. Also, their snapshot model has no chain dependencies, which means you can delete any backup without breaking the others. We had a fun hour of backup horror stories, ransomware pragmatism, where I'm lobbying hard for a Docker volume integration. Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/OPRK5osKQHI 🙌 The Agentic DevOps Guild has launched! It's a training + community + mentorship program for engineers wanting to learn the latest CI/CD automation and dive into Agentic DevOps. Meetups are happening now, with new course videos dropping every few weeks. Join the Guild and become your team's leader in AI for infrastructure automation https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild 🍾 ★Show Links★ Plakar website Plakar Github Repo Plakar demo Plakar on X Creators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Julien Mangeard - Guest Gilles Chehade - Guest You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Introduction (02:25) - Backup Engineering (07:07) - Restore First Mindset (09:13) - Plakar's Elevator Pitch (20:41) - Docker and Volume Backups (26:27) - Docker Image Deployment Challenges (29:10) - Backing Up the System (30:13) - Encryption and Architecture Modes (34:14) - Enterprise Scaling and Solo DevOps (36:05) - Ransomware And Encryption (36:44) - Source Side Dedup Demo (39:34) - Chainless Snapshots (41:24) - Sync And Multi Store Copies (43:56) - Crypto Audits And Repair (46:05) - Backup Stress Horror Stories (50:07) - Make Backups Usable (52:17) - Ransomware Detection Heuristics (58:23) - Cloud Native Positioning (01:02:13) - Kubernetes and Integrations

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