Decipher Security Podcast

AI Has a Security Measurement Problem | Gary McGraw

May 13, 2026·38 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Few people (if any) have spent more time thinking about and working on the hard problems in security and software than Gary McGraw, and he also happens to have a PhD in cognitive science and computer science and has been studying neural nets and AI systems for 30+ years. Gary joins Dennis to talk about his team's new research into AI security benchmarks, measurement, and bringing a software security approach to LLMs and AI systems. LinksBIML report: https://berryvilleiml.com/results/no-security-meter-ai.pdf

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