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Talking Dateline: The Thing About Helen & Olga

February 11, 2026·22 min·3-min readinterviewtrue crime
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TLDR
Helen Golay and Olga Rudderschmidt, two elderly women in Los Angeles, posed as benevolent caretakers of homeless men while secretly orchestrating their murders to collect life insurance payouts. Their scheme unraveled after a dogged insurance investigator and a dedicated LAPD-led Granny T

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Guest

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Keith Morrison

interview on Dateline NBC

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People

Helen GolayOlga RudderschmidtKeith MorrisonSusan LeibowitzEd WebsterDennis KilcoyneKenneth McDavidPaul VadosFred Downey

Companies

Royal LightingLAPDCHP

Topics

Cold CasesCriminal JusticeFraudInvestigative JournalismTrue Crime

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