Dad Saves America

“Falling Behind” Is Public School Propaganda - Graham Frey

June 4, 2026·2h 44m
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I sat down with education innovator Graham Frey to discuss what school is actually for, how structure and choice should be balanced in a child’s life, and why the "falling behind" framework scares families into staying at failing schools.We get into:* The six habits every kid should leave school with* How standardized test hide the reality of public schools* The tension between teachers and school bureaucracies* What school choice offers that zip-code schools don't* Why Graham thinks kids fundamentally want to learn* How social pressure manipulates parents into propping up public schools* The ethics of running education experiments on kids* Student-directed learning vs. traditional structure* Why the future of education might be found in abandoned malls* What AI will and won't change about how kids learn_____________________________________If you’re building or upgrading your home office like me, code YTE730 will get you an extra $30 off the E7 Pro and E7 standing desk. FlexiSpot E7 Pro standing desk: https://go.flexispot.com/DadSaves-E7Pro_____________________________________Make the switch to real oral care. Go to http://vanman.shop/dad and use code DAD for 15% off your first order._____________________________________See fewer carts go abandoned and more sales go with Shopify and their Shop Pay button. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/dad._____________________________________Learn more about Graham Frey’s work: https://www.grahamfrey.com/_____________________________________Outline:[0:00] Learning to love school[11:53] Education degrees are useless[19:17] What is the point of school?[31:18] Hold kids to standards[37:09] What if parents aren’t doing their job?[46:50] Teacher autonomy vs standardization[55:06] What is the Primer School network?[1:03:14] How to choose between alternative schools[1:12:19] Most students are falling behind[1:18:19] Growth matters more than “grade level”[1:27:38] Teachers need to be held accountable[1:32:49] Catholic schools are a missed opportunity[1:35:47] The pros and cons of school consolidation[1:49:12] Students need structure before choice[2:03:37] How rigorous should school be?[2:17:16] We don’t know what AI means for education[2:29:09] Parenting from first principles_____________________________________Purchase a T-shirt, hoodie, and more over on our merch store: https://shop.dadsavesamerica.com/Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BQHpEYvTw9wMake a tax-deductible donation to Dad Saves America: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://secure.anedot.com/emergent-order-foundation/dad-website?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dadsavesamerica.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get full access to Dad Saves America at www.dadsavesamerica.com/subscribe

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