Cops, Criminals, and Christ

From Border Roots to Prison Ministry

January 27, 2026·29 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

From border politics to prison ministry: Dale Sutherland (The Undercover Pastor) interviews Saul Ramirez, who grew up on the U.S.–Mexico border in Laredo, Texas. Power, pressure, and integrity: Saul shares his rise from city council to mayor at 32, navigating corruption, faith awakening, and leadership under scrutiny. A faith redefined: A Gideon Bible and a missionary’s prayer shifted his understanding of success—from good works to grace-filled calling. National influence, lasting impact: Sau...

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