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by MS NOW, Eugene Daniels, Symone Sanders Townsend
Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels first became friends over a decade ago, as they built careers at the intersection of society, culture, and politics. On “Clock It with Symone & Eugene,” they invite listeners and guests into their personal groupchat. They talk about politics (think Nikole Hannah-Jones on modern civil rights!); they talk about the arts (Tony Goldwyn, aka President Fitz from “Scandal,” drops by!); and they talk about how all of it comes together to shape our lives. This is where you can stay tapped in without burning out. Because on “Clock It,” you get a look at the world in Symone and Eugene’s signature style: off-the-cuff, engaging, and always with a dose of fun.
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Instead of bringing just one friend onto the show to discuss the historic 2026 midterms, Symone and Eugene invited the whole groupchat. Tune in to listen to what Vice President Kamala Harris – in her first public reaction to the results – DNC Chair Ken Martin, Michael Steele, Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester, Governors Wes Moore and Andy Beshear, Mayor Brandon Scott, SEIU President April Varrett, Jane Kleeb, pollster Terrance Woodbury, South Carolina State Representative Hamilton Grant, and Mike Smith, president of the House Majority PAC, all have to say about what they believe their mandate to be. And detail the plans they’re already putting in motion, from investigations to trying to raise the federal minimum wage to building the infrastructure for 2028. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
President Trump is at his lowest approval rating ever. Polling averages from FiftyPlusOne show Democrats winning in 11 of 15 key Senate races. Its generic ballot test for control of the House asks voters which party’s candidate they would support. Democrats are +9. But the party isn’t declaring victory just yet. Many of them still have a touch of PTSD from election nights in 2016 and 2024. But Clock It’s latest guest – pollster and data journalist G. Elliott Morris – says unless Republicans have secretly generated the biggest get out the vote campaign they’ve ever had, there’s no evidence that Democrats won’t win big. “ The Republicans right now are just hoping, praying for polling error,” said the FiftyPlusOne co-founder. “That's obviously a bad place to be. And like, if you got nothing else, then you're saying all the polls are all rigged.” Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
This week Symone and Eugene joined Nicolle Wallace on her podcast "The Best People" to discuss all things midterms: El-Sayed's low polling with Black voters, Talarico fever in Texas, and could the senate seat in Mississippi... be in play for Democrats? All three MS NOW colleagues talk about the best version of America they’ve seen under Trump 2.0, exemplified by the Minneapolis ICE protests and the “No Kings” marches — times where we rely on community to propel us forward. “There is a world where selfishness is not the way you have to operate in your daily lives” says Eugene. “The only way to do that is to hold hands and jump together.” And Symone agrees: “We're the people, it is literally on us,” she says. “History is going to record that we made a difference.” Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Two weeks from the most pivotal midterm elections in modern history, the polling looks good for Democrats. But if they’re going to win back the House and the Senate, they’ll need voters to show up to the polls. Eugene’s been traveling around the country working on a series focused on Black voters called “The Deciding Vote.” In the first episode, he went to Cleveland, Ohio, where over 600,000 Black voters sat out the 2022 midterms. In the city, he finds that most of the non-voters he speaks to never connected – or were never told – how much voting could change their lives. Then Symone and Eugene invite Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott to the groupchat to prove how much a good leader matters. Mayor Scott, sworn in at the age of 26 in December 2020, has presided over a resurgence in public safety and development in the city he grew up in. He credits his success to being his real, authentic, Black Baltimore self. “ I grew up basically at the worst time to be a young Black poor person in my city,” Mayor Scott said. “My view on what happened, and what the city needs to focus on is different because I lived it.” Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
This season of America continues to get more and more violent. Last Thursday, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that the administration would livestream a public firing squad execution. That same day in New York City, an ICE agent shot immigrant Oscar Bergal in the neck while he was driving a car with his five-year-old son in the backseat. “We're moving the bar on what is socially acceptable,” says Daniel Peña, the latest member of the Clock It groupchat. Symone and Eugene invited the Pushcart Prize-winning writer & Fulbright-Garcia Robles Scholar to discuss his new book “How to Look Away,” America’s evolving relationship with violence, how hit TV shows from the 2010s predicted Donald Trump’s rise and the use of force for political gain. “ For people who were like, it was outside the realm of their imaginations that Trump could happen, you saw pretty quickly like, no, this is in the DNA of the country right now,” he says. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Michael Steele remains a Republican, but the party as it stands today is unrecognizable to him. “For the sake of power, we bought the idea of the South will rise again,” he says. “We should've killed it in its infancy and [been] done with it because it gave rise to what happened on January 6th.” The first Black chairman of GOPAC and the RNC joins the groupchat to offer his take on big money (and dark money) in politics, to reflect on how his faith guides his politics, and to explain why he’s stuck with the Republicans in spite of their about-face with regard to individual liberties. “ The easiest thing to do is walk away,” says Steele. “ I have to believe in your rights as a citizen under the flag and the Constitution to be on this soil, to live on this soil, to flourish on this soil – however we find you on this soil.” Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
We're a month out from the most consequential midterm elections of the 21st century. With momentum on its side, the Democratic party is hoping that big wins in November will lead to a dredging of the entire federal government – one that's continued an ICE surge with impunity, that's failed to stem a worsening affordability crisis, and that's started wars after promising to end them. As the countdown to the elections winds down, Symone and Eugene invite the one-and-only Rachel Maddow back into the groupchat to share their hope that the Democratic party will rise to the occasion and start cleaning up the political mess we’re in. They also get into how her new true crime documentary – Kill, Bury, Print – reflects local communities fighting back against corrupt forces in government. "This is not a smoke detector moment. This is a flames in the kitchen moment," says Rachel, who has not given up. "Even their own people are repulsed by the worst things they're doing. And that to me is a healthy sign." Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
On Saturday, September 26th, Symone and Eugene taped an episode of Clock It in front of a live audience as part of MS NOW’s Together in Texas event. They spoke about the money pouring into races all over the country, and polling that shows Trump underwater and Republicans in suddenly competitive contests. But they pointed out that it’s not enough for Democrats to win back the House – or even the House and the Senate. Symone implored the audience to hold the people they elect to their promises. “It's not just enough to take power and not do jack-ish with it,” she said. “This is why I think some people [are] about to lose their seats, some Democrats have lost some primaries, and some new folks are about to get elected. And these are people that are not about business as usual. They are going to challenge the status quo. They're going to ask for things to be done differently.” Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels first became friends over a decade ago, as they built careers at the intersection of society, culture, and politics. On “Clock It with Symone & Eugene,” they invite listeners and guests into their personal groupchat. They talk about politics (think Nikole Hannah-Jones on modern civil rights!); they talk about the arts (Tony Goldwyn, aka President Fitz from “Scandal,” drops by!); and they talk about how all of it comes together to shape our lives. This is where you can stay tapped in without burning out. Because on “Clock It,” you get a look at the world in Symone and Eugene’s signature style: off-the-cuff, engaging, and always with a dose of fun.
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