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by Sarai Johnson and Meredith Holley
A podcast with modern witches who like to talk about sex, astrology, justice, and magick. Meredith Holley is an astrologer with Fourth Cup Astrology & Sarai Johnson is a sexologist and relationship coach.
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What happens when the tower you built to keep yourself safe becomes the thing you have to escape?Sarai is joined by Shannon Baldwin, a religious trauma recovery coach, to talk about one of their favorite shared topics: the exvangelical-to-witch pipeline. Together they get into why so many people raised in high control religion find their way to witchcraft, and what it takes to come home to your body after being taught it was the enemy.In this episode:Deconstruction as excavation, and why the Tower card is followed by the StarDobson-style parenting, developmental trauma, and the “mechanisms” we build as kids to surviveWhy grief gets bypassed in church, and how to let a part of yourself die without going backReal discernment vs. the good/evil calculator we were handedSobriety, somatic work, and the radical act of setting a timer to check in with your bodyWhy wanting things feels dangerous (it started with Eve wanting knowledge)The late-in-life lesbian pipeline, purity culture as rape culture, and why safe child policies matterRaising kids who get to have their own spiritual journeyWitchcraft as the living butterfly, not the one pinned to a cardPlus: Apostle Paul as archetypal nemesis, Christians with crystals, and Mark Driscoll but more orange.Connect with Shannon: youbecomingyoucoaching.comConnect with Sarai: saraijohnson.comJoin the Five of Pentacles coven: A five-month experimental coven for post-Christian witches and witch-curious folks, with new and full moon gatherings and a pay-what-you-can structure. Enrollment is open through November 11, so you have just over a day to join us. Sign up at saraijohnson.com /5-of-pentacles. Missed the window? Reach out to get on the waitlist for the next round.Ready to reclaim? Start here.The Five of Pentacles Coven is open for enrollment through 11/11. Pay what you can, starting at $5/month for five months of ritual, discovery, and reclaiming your own magick. https://saraijohnson.com/5-of-pentacles1. Take the free Body Trust QuizFind out where your body trust is strongest and where it’s asking for attention, across physicality, emotions, worth, and knowing.👉 https://sarai-bodytrustquiz.scoreapp.com/2. Work with Sarai one-on-oneTarot Reading ($55): a recorded reading delivered within three daysEnergy Work ($150): a 60-minute distance Reiki sessionThe Witching Hour ($177): a 60-minute session to name the thing underneath the thing and leave with a magickal workingTending the Bones and Blooms ($222): a 90-minute somatic session with a guided pathworking to meet your own inner landscape👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work3. Give the gift of coming home to yourselfThe holidays are coming. Readings and sessions make great gifts for the deconstructed people in your life.👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work4. Follow, subscribe, and shareThreads (Sarai’s favorite right now): https://www.threads.com/@saraijohnson.witchSubstack: https://substack.com/@saraijohnsonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/saraijohnson.witch/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@saraijohnson.witchSubscribe to and rate Cauldron Her Daddy, and send this episode to a friend who’s ever said, “I wish my body would catch up to what my mind knows.”5. Get a reading on the show!Sarai will continue to offer a free intuitive tarot reading to folks who are willing to be on the show!👉 Put in your question here! 6. Chip in directlyWant to support this work? DM S
This week Sarai sits down with author and longtime museum professional L.L. Mason, a friend of nearly 20 years (we’re officially crones now).L.L. grew up Jehovah’s Witness as the granddaughter of one of the “144,000,” came out at 32 while married to a man, and recently published Toying with Magic, the first book in a male/male romantasy trilogy.Together they get into:What it’s like to grow up with a grandfather people came to sit at the feet ofComing out later in life, and why you never really come out just onceFawning, self-abandonment, and learning to put your own oxygen mask on firstWhy anger is part of deconstruction, and what happens when grief finally catches upRest as resistance, the Proverbs 31 woman, and how religion and capitalism run the same playbookPandemic grief we still haven’t reckoned withWhite Christian nationalism, end-times thinking, and recording on Election Day (good thing we knocked on all that wood! It WORKED!)Precognition, reincarnated familiars, and writing as channeling (“I’m just the stenographer”)Making peace with parents who may never really know youSarai’s new Five of Pentacles coven, and moving from isolation toward mutual careIt’s tender, funny, and very real, with plenty of Bible verses quoted back at the Bible thumpers.Find Toying with Magic: Amazon (on Kindle Unlimited through December), Bookshop.org, Kobo/Rakuten, and Barnes & Noble. Local to Lane County? Pick it up at Most Ardently on 13th in Eugene or Wild Geese in Cottage Grove. Book two, Banking on Magic, is coming February 2027, and book three, Magic on the Green, is slated for August 2027.Ready to reclaim? Start here.The Five of Pentacles Coven is open for enrollment through 11/11. Pay what you can, starting at $5/month for five months of ritual, discovery, and reclaiming your own magick. https://saraijohnson.com/5-of-pentacles1. Take the free Body Trust QuizFind out where your body trust is strongest and where it’s asking for attention, across physicality, emotions, worth, and knowing.👉 https://sarai-bodytrustquiz.scoreapp.com/2. Work with Sarai one-on-oneTarot Reading ($55): a recorded reading delivered within three daysEnergy Work ($150): a 60-minute distance Reiki sessionThe Witching Hour ($177): a 60-minute session to name the thing underneath the thing and leave with a magickal workingTending the Bones and Blooms ($222): a 90-minute somatic session with a guided pathworking to meet your own inner landscape👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work3. Give the gift of coming home to yourselfThe holidays are coming. Readings and sessions make great gifts for the deconstructed people in your life.👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work4. Follow, subscribe, and shareThreads (Sarai’s favorite right now): https://www.threads.com/@saraijohnson.witchSubstack: https://substack.com/@saraijohnsonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/saraijohnson.witch/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@saraijohnson.witchSubscribe to and rate Cauldron Her Daddy, and send this episode to a friend who’s ever said, “I wish my body would catch up to what my mind knows.”5. Get a reading on the show!Sarai will continue to offer a free intuitive tarot reading to folks who are willing to be on the show!👉 Put in your question here! 6. Chip in directlyWant to support this work? DM Sarai on Threads or Instagram for Venmo (not tax deductible).Everything lives
Content warning: This episode includes a brief mention of suicide and the loss of Sarai’s brother. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988.Meredith has officially left the cauldron, so it’s time for a proper reintroduction. This first solo episode is Sarai Johnson telling you who she is, what she does, and why it matters.Sarai is a witch and somatic sexologist who helps post-religious people reclaim their bodies, minds, and souls so they can live a lush life. If you grew up being told your body was bad, your desires were dangerous, your intuition was the devil, and you didn’t belong to yourself, this is for you. Ex-evangelicals, ex-Mormons, ex-anything. Witches and the witch-curious. People who have already done the hard work of deconstructing in their minds, but whose bodies haven’t quite caught up to what they know.That last part is the work. Sarai isn’t here to help you tear things down. You’ve already done that. She’s here for the rebuilding: learning to trust your own knowing again, in your body, so you can choose your life on purpose. Think of her less as the spiritual EMT and more as the proverbial physical therapist who helps you walk again.She does it through Pragmagick, her name for pragmatic magick that works in real life. It’s embodiment, ritual, tarot, energy work, and mythology as a language for meeting yourself, all grounded in the ordinary and the physical. And she follows the LeVar Burton rule of spirituality: she’ll tell you what’s true for her, but you don’t have to take her word for it. You get to decide what your life means.In this episode, Sarai tells the story of the single question that cracked her faith open in a college ministry class, the angry hike that ended with her re-baptizing herself into her own divinity in a creek, how losing her brother changed her relationship to being alive, and why the Tower card always clears the way for the Star.In this episode:Welcome to the solo era, and what Pragmagick isThe ministry class question that started it all: “My wife is a Republican, but I’m a Christian”Twenty years of deconstruction, breakup songs with God, and a brief return to leading worshipWhy religion is like a subscription box you can’t customizeDivination tools as a way to externalize intuition (and “mythodology,” dad joke intended)The angry hike, jumping in a creek, and the torn curtain of the internal Holy of HoliesHow high-control religion teaches us every part of us is not enough, and why every goalpost is a mirageKen Ham textbooks, dinosaurs, and who Sarai works with nowThe underworld in between: Leave in Love, homeownership counseling, and systems work on houselessnessLosing her youngest brother in 2024, and letting go of the wish to disappear as a coping mechanismThe Tower and the Star: what crumbles away, and the pilot light of your soulMaking life lush, and why embodied people are too slippery for oppressive systems to holdLiberation as a group project, decolonizing your spirituality, and why your existence is enoughThe Five of Pentacles covenPragmagick defined, the LeVar Burton rule, and Sarai as your personal WendyReady to reclaim? Start here.1. Join the Five of Pentacles coven (doors close November 5)A pay-what-you-can, five-month coven for witchy and witch-curious folks coming out of high-control religion. New moon ceremonies, full moon integration calls, and a Telegram community between sessions. Starting at $5 a month.👉 https://saraijohnson.com/5-of-pentacles 2. Take the free Body Trust QuizFind out where your body trust is strongest and where it’s asking for attention, across physicality, emotions, worth, and knowing.👉 https://sarai-bodytrustquiz.scoreapp.com/3. Work with Sarai one-on-oneTarot Reading ($55): a recorded reading delivered within three daysEnergy Work ($150): a 60-minute distance Reiki sessionThe Witching Hour ($177): a 60-minute session to name the thing underneath the thing and leave with a magickal workingTending the Bones and Blooms ($333): a 90-minute somatic session with a guided pathworking to meet your own inner landscape👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work4. Give the gift of coming home to yourselfThe holidays a
"Honest": November 2026 Month-Ahead Reading: Tarot, Astrology & Human Design (Plus a Podcast Transition)Sarai Johnson and Meredith Holley open Cauldron Her Daddy to share a November month-ahead reading combining tarot, astrology, and Human Design/Gene Keys, while announcing Meredith is stepping away from the podcast to focus on her Substack (@FourthCup) and Sarai will take over, with possible future guest appearances. Sarai’s tarot theme, inspired by the song “Honest” by Joseph, highlights collaboration and alignment (Three of Pentacles), persistence and civic participation (Nine of Wands), releasing burdens and misplaced responsibility (Ten of Wands), letting go of needing answers and trusting seasonal cycles (Ace of Pentacles), sustainable stewardship and abundance (King of Pentacles), balancing bold leadership with grief (King of Wands with Three of Swords), shadow integration and self-acceptance (The Lovers), and truth-telling in integrity (King of Swords). Meredith then outlines key November transits, including Venus and Mercury retrogrades turning direct, Scorpio new moon, Gemini full moon, and several Leo/Sagittarius aspects emphasizing ego, power, boundaries, courage, and collective change, and closes with where to find both hosts for horoscopes, lunar updates, and sessions.Listen to "Honest" by Joseph here: https://youtu.be/4eGVGwuNukU?si=0jO3cJ45fHfsaeg-The Fifth Spirit Tarot is available here: https://www.hayhouse.com/fifth-spirit-tarot-card-deck00:00 Welcome and November Preview00:37 Meredith Steps Back02:08 November Mood and Darkness03:27 Song Theme and Three of Pentacles08:51 Honesty and Nine of Wands10:49 Dropping False Responsibility12:36 No Answers Needed14:46 Next Right Action Abundance19:09 Courage and Grief in Tension22:09 Shadow Work and The Lovers25:23 Collective Truth King of Swords27:52 Astrology Begins Key Dates28:29 Venus Jupiter and Mercury Cazimi30:40 Mars Shadow and Scorpio New Moon33:09 Scorpio Transformation Reset34:43 Mars Venus Retrograde Flirt36:13 Retrogrades Station Direct38:22 Mars Jupiter Ego Surge41:47 Boundaries Consent Lessons46:01 Sagittarius Season Begins52:19 Full Moon Power Check56:36 Mars Enters Virgo Shift59:02 Late Month Healing Expansion01:00:42 Collective Community Rethink01:04:31 Wrap Up And Where To Find UsTransits: November 4 Venus retrograde in Libra sextiles Jupiter in Leo at 2:31am Mercury retrogrades to cazimi the Sun at 5:24amNovember 5 Mars enters pre-retrograde shadow in Leo at 7:33amNovember 8 New Moon in Scorpio at 11:02pm. Gate 1 - Entropy, Freshness, BeautyNovember 9 Mars in Leo sextiles venus retrograde in Libra at 10:47pmNovember 13 Mercury stations direct in Scorpio at 7:53am Venus stations direct in Libra at 4:27pmNovember 15 Mars goes c
33 Cauldron Reading: Health Crisis and BreakupsOn Cauldron Her Daddy, hosts Sarai Johnson and Meredith Holley welcome guest “Calypso” for guidance through major transitions involving health issues, the end of a relationship, being newly single, and a career change. Sarai offers an “Inner Terrain” chakra tarot reading featuring the Wheel of Fortune, Page of Cups (root), World reversed (sacral), Knight of Swords (solar plexus), Eight of Pentacles with a Beaver guide (heart), Queen of Swords (throat), Nine of Swords (third eye), and Temperance (crown), emphasizing resilience, completion, boundaries, and alchemy through extremes. Meredith then reads Calypso’s astrology and human design—6/2 splenic authority projector with Leo rising, Aquarius sun, Cancer moon, heavy Capricorn influence—discussing Pluto and Saturn transits, career shifts, managing overstimulation, choosing mentors wisely, and practical boundary-setting around an enmeshed partnership.The Fifth Spirit Tarot is available here: https://www.hayhouse.com/fifth-spirit-tarot-card-deck00:00 Welcome and Guest Question01:56 Wheel of Fortune Overview03:51 Root Chakra Body Grounding08:19 Sacral Chakra Cycle Closing10:39 Solar Plexus Forward Drive13:10 Heart Chakra Work and Beaver20:04 Throat Chakra Truth Voice21:48 Third Eye Fears to Insight25:01 Crown Chakra Temperance Alchemy29:29 Astrology and Human Design Setup32:14 Power Perspective Mentors36:32 Incarnation Cross Listening38:30 Overstimulation and Inner Voice42:25 Empathy With Boundaries43:50 Queen of Swords Archetype44:51 Saturn Transits and Hard Lessons47:54 Codependency and Cutting Cords54:13 Eviction and Boundary Scripts57:29 Leo Rising Identity and Community59:46 Karmic Connections and Pluto Venus01:02:26 12th House Healing and Career Shifts01:09:01 Loneliness, Friendship, and Finding Joy01:11:48 Cycles Not Ladders Closing Advice01:13:32 Hermit Time and Where to BookReady to reclaim? Start here.1. Take the free Body Trust QuizFind out where your body trust is strongest and where it’s asking for attention, across physicality, emotions, worth, and knowing.👉 https://sarai-bodytrustquiz.scoreapp.com/2. Work with Sarai one-on-oneTarot Reading ($55): a recorded reading delivered within three daysEnergy Work ($150): a 60-minute distance Reiki sessionThe Witching Hour ($177): a 60-minute session to name the thing underneath the thing and leave with a magickal workingTending the Bones and Blooms ($333): a 90-minute somatic session with a guided pathworking to meet your own inner landscape👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work3. Give the gift of coming home to yourselfThe holidays are coming. Readings and sessions make great gifts for the deconstructed people in your life.👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work4. Follow, subscribe, and shareThreads (Sarai’s favorite right now): https://www.threads.com/@saraijohnson.witchSubstack: <a href="https://substack.com/@saraijohnson" rel="noopener noreferrer" targe
Cauldron Reading: Body Care for the Saturn Return with Liv Kelsey of Sacred Portal TattooSarai Johnson and Meredith Holley welcome Liv Kelsey of Sacred Portal Tattoo to Cauldron Her Daddy to discuss Liv’s alchemical ceremonial healing tattoos, including the sigil-based tattoo ceremony Sarai and Meredith received during the July outer-planet alignment. Liv shares how she guides clients to set intentions and embed living symbolic transmissions into the body. The hosts then read Liv’s current “in-between” phase and vision to create a ceremonial sanctuary, beginning with a tarot inner-terrain chakra spread featuring the Six of Swords, Empress, Eight of Pentacles with a peacock guide, Ace of Swords, Page of Pentacles, Page of Swords, the Fool, and Two of Pentacles, with emphasis on body care and boundaries. Meredith follows with Liv’s human design (3/5 manifesting generator, emotional authority) and astrology, highlighting major transits, Saturn return themes, and grounding practices. Contact and booking details are shared at the end.00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro01:17 Sacred Portal Tattoo Magic02:20 Livs Sanctuary Vision03:41 Six of Swords Liminal Space06:51 Root Chakra Empress10:14 Sacral Creativity Eight Pentacles15:46 Solar Plexus Discernment20:05 Heart and Throat Pages24:27 Third Eye and Crown Balance28:17 Human Design Overview29:26 3 5 Manifesting Generator34:31 Gates Shadow Integration37:21 Capturing Downloads Practice39:11 Natal Chart Highlights40:51 Major Transits Overview41:57 Saturn Return Health Focus45:53 Releasing Savior Patterns47:08 Pluto Power and Consent51:30 Pluto in Aquarius Collective Shift54:40 Uranus Awakening and Mediumship01:00:51 T-Squares and Mental Chatter01:07:07 Eclipses and Career Shifts01:09:12 Honoring Saturn Practices01:10:00 Human Design Wait to Respond01:15:11 Wrap-Up and How to ConnectReady to reclaim? Start here.1. Take the free Body Trust QuizFind out where your body trust is strongest and where it’s asking for attention, across physicality, emotions, worth, and knowing.👉 https://sarai-bodytrustquiz.scoreapp.com/2. Work with Sarai one-on-oneTarot Reading ($55): a recorded reading delivered within three daysEnergy Work ($150): a 60-minute distance Reiki sessionThe Witching Hour ($177): a 60-minute session to name the thing underneath the thing and leave with a magickal workingTending the Bones and Blooms ($333): a 90-minute somatic session with a guided pathworking to meet your own inner landscape👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work3. Give the gift of coming home to yourselfThe holidays are coming. Readings and sessions make great gifts for the deconstructed people in your life.👉 https://saraijohnson.com/work4. Follow, subscribe, and shareThreads (Sarai’s favorite right now): https://www.threads.com/@saraijohnson.witchSubstack: https://substack.com/@saraijohnsonInstagram: <a
October Astrology Forecast + Tarot (Wildflowers): Venus Retrograde in Scorpio, Libra New Moon & Taurus Full MoonOn Cauldron Her Daddy, Sarai Johnson and Meredith Holley preview October with a Dolly Parton–inspired tarot spread based on “Wildflowers” and a detailed astrology forecast. Sarai frames the month’s theme as the Queen of Swords reversed—recognizing resilience by aligning thoughts and emotions—then pulls Page of Cups (release naïveté/idealization), King of Cups (caregiver/martyr expectations), Four of Swords (rest and recovery), King of Pentacles (sustainable abundance), Nine of Wands reversed (stop pre-worrying; trust your survival record), the Hierophant (discernment and self-defined beliefs), Knight of Swords (boldly pursue mystery), and Five of Cups (make space for grief). Meredith outlines key transits: Venus stations retrograde Oct 3 in Scorpio, new moon in Libra Oct 10, Pluto stations direct Oct 15, Mercury retrograde begins Oct 24 in Scorpio, full moon in Taurus Oct 25 as Venus re-enters Libra, and Samhain/Halloween Oct 31, emphasizing boundaries, honesty, rest, and avoiding paranoia or possessiveness.As always, Sarai uses the Fifth Spirit Tarot: https://www.hayhouse.com/fifth-spirit-tarot-card-deck(Scroll down for a list of the human design sun transits and astrology transits)00:00 Welcome to October00:40 Dolly Parton Tribute02:03 Queen of Swords Theme06:08 Page of Cups Letting Go09:14 King of Cups Expectations12:58 Four of Swords Rest18:34 King of Pentacles Abundance21:19 Survival and Worry27:25 Hierophant Beliefs Path32:25 Mystery and Trust37:38 October Astrology Preview39:19 Early October Tension45:01 Venus Retrograde Deep Dive50:49 New Moon Libra Flirt Energy51:49 Libra New Moon Vibes52:46 Gate 57 Intuition55:41 Flirting Boundaries01:00:31 Pluto Direct Shift01:04:20 Venus Pluto Paranoia01:13:50 Scorpio Season Begins01:18:06 Mercury Retrograde Lessons01:21:59 Taurus Full Moon Balance01:32:36 Samhain Witch New Year01:35:58 Offerings And FarewellOctober 2026 TransitsOct 1-2 Gate 18: Judgment - Integrity - Perfection2-7 Gate 48: Inadequacy - Resourcefulness - Wisdom7-13 Gate 57 (NEW MOON): Unease - Intuition - Clarity13-19 Gate 32: Failure - Preservation - Veneration19-24 Gate 50: Corruption - Equilibrium - Harmony24-30 Gate 28 (FULL MOON): Purposelessness - Totality - Immortality30-Nov 5 Gate 44: Interference - Teamwork - SynarchyNew Moon in Libra is October 10 at 8:50am PacificFull Moon in Taurus is October 25 at 9:00pm PacificSamhain/Halloween is October 31!!Oct
Energetic Hygiene & Past Lives with Eliel Fionn | Cauldron Her DaddyOn Cauldron Her Daddy, hosts Sarai Johnson and Meredith Holley interview Eliel Fionn, an intuitive with synesthesia who describes learning to filter constant energetic information, developing “dimmer switches,” and using touch and Reiki to read energy. They discuss practical energetic hygiene like clearing during a shower, using salt to cleanse spaces (especially transitional hubs like airports and hospitals), and maintaining personal boundaries. The conversation critiques outsourcing authority to institutions or spiritual leaders, warns about spiritual abuse and perfection narratives, and emphasizes cultivating internal authority and responsibility. Eliel shares perspectives on past-life patterns, soul “majors,” non-linear time, and recurring relationships, including the hosts’ shared themes of rebellion, creating alternatives, and activism. They also explore martyrdom, codependency, grief after suicide, and choosing love over grief, ending with Eliel reading her poem “Quest” and sharing contact details.Work with Eliel: https://elielfionn.com/Follow Eliel on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eliel.fionnScroll Down to read the poem Eliel shared00:00 Podcast Welcome01:12 Eliel’s Intuitive Origins01:57 Synesthesia and Filtering Energy04:29 Energetic Hygiene Basics08:38 Clearing Spaces With Salt10:15 Authority and Spiritual Mentorship15:00 Past Lives and Soul Majors18:05 Rebel Lifetimes Together20:40 Church Conflict and Finding Voice22:48 Patterns We Repeat23:29 Optimism Versus Resistance25:00 Martyrdom And Self Love26:33 Not My Responsibility27:12 Releasing Gathered Souls31:12 Love Bigger Than Grief35:21 Perfection Myth And Reality37:52 Soul Age And Time41:31 Karma Misunderstood46:28 Poem 47:44 Where To Find EveryoneQuest, by Eliel FionnAs I walk in woods of greenness wild,I sip from the cup of the blessing child,sip grail and walk onEach instant a richness of the savoring cup,a linger, a touch, of life to supSip grail and walk onThe tastes of journeys,the splendors I’ve seenthere in the shades of welcoming green,Sip grail and walk onMy companions, a book, a song and a thoughtof leaping life’s rim and taking a draughtSip grail and walk onThen home to my love and my garden greenand stories for children who know what I meanSip grail and walk onThe grail tastes of sunshine,joy, sorrow, and pain,if I’d yet to chooseI would drink it againSip grail and walk onReady to reclaim? Start here.1. Take the free Body Trust QuizFind out where your body trust is strongest and where it’s asking for attention, across physicality, emotions, worth, and knowing.👉 https://sarai-bodytrustquiz.scoreapp.com/2. Work with Sarai one-on-oneTarot Reading ($55): a recorded reading delivered within three daysEnergy Work ($150): a 60-minute distance Reiki sessionThe Witching Hour ($177): a 60-minute session to name the thing underneath the thing and leave with a magickal workingTending the Bones and Blooms ($333): a 90-minute somatic session with a guided pathworking to meet your own inner landscape👉 <a href="https://saraijohnson.com/work" rel="noopener noreferrer
A podcast with modern witches who like to talk about sex, astrology, justice, and magick. Meredith Holley is an astrologer with Fourth Cup Astrology & Sarai Johnson is a sexologist and relationship coach.
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