Casual Conversations

Just Do Good

May 20, 2026·49 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

This week's episode starts with a surprise guest — Elena's five-year-old son Kian, who somehow delivers the best advice of the episode before heading back to his Legos. From there, Elena and Ryan get into the real stuff: losing a listing you deserved, what a brutal day in business is actually trying to teach you, why the slow season might be protecting you more than it's hurting you, and how going into business with her husband ended up saving their marriage rather than breaking it. Elena also opens up about five years of therapy, what it's actually done for her peace, and why she'll never apologize for it. If you've ever felt the pull between building something big and protecting what matters most — this one's for you.

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