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The stories of the global underground movement that shaped experimental music and culture, told by the artists that were there. For two decades during the '80's and '90's, the international mail system fostered a network of underground artists, exchanging cassette tapes of music and homemade artwork all under the radar of mainstream media. Taking the DIY message of Punk as a jumping off point, we travel through the network to find the creators of the fanzines, the music, the labels and events.
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Some of the most surprising and revealing connections surface in this episode. Two worlds that rarely get mentioned in the same breath: Throbbing Gristle's Industrial Records, and Manchester's Factory Records. At the centre are two more names from the Industrial News “tapes received" list; Paul Wiggin of Section 25 and Robbie MacDonald of Crawling Chaos offshoot, Zyklon B Zombies. Both aspiring musicians who connected with TG's Industrial News zine by sending cassettes of their music. Paul describes experiencing the crushing, low-frequency weight of the early Throbbing Gristle gigs which stunned a generation of post-punk audiences with the “sonic warfare” that the band were waging. Later, a direct-to-tape demo sent to Industrial Records came back with an invitation from Genesis P-Orridge to London, and a glimpse of TG’s world via a Cosey Fanni Tutti performance. Section 25’s support slot for Joy Division, followed with Ian Curtis's word was enough to secure a deal with Factory Records. Setting them off on recordings sessions with Martin Hannett at Cargo, and Pink Floyd's old Britannia Row studio. Over in Newcastle, Robbie MacDonald was working behind the scenes for The Crawling Chaos, creating sleeves, booking gigs, and supporting their own label, Foetus Products. Ahead of a gig at Whitley Bay's Rex Hotel, word went round that Throbbing Gristle themselves might turn up under an alias: Zyklon B Zombies. The backing tape built for the hoax made its way to Industrial Records as something of a joke at the band's own expense and, whatever became of any reply, it landed the Zyklon B Zombies in the "Tapes Received" list regardless. Two Factory scouts in that night's crowd left far more taken with The Crawling Chaos than with the prank, leading to a clandestine meet up with Tony Wilson, and the eventual release on Factory Benelux of FAC 17. Hosted by Martin Franklin.Theme music "This Is Concrete" by The Happy Citizen. DISCOVER THE VIDEOYou can find videos of cassette tapes, artefacts and unboxings from the cassette underground on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast IN THIS EPISODE THANKSJerry Kranitz, co-host for all interviews recorded in the series.Richard Rupenus, for research and series advice. VOICESMartin FranklinPaul WigginRobbie MacDonald MUSIC"Fallen Monument" Section 25, Illuminus Illumina (self-released cassette)"Live" Throbbing Gristle at the Ajanta Cinema, Derby, 1979“Life” Side A, Zyklon B Zombies backing tape"You" Section 25, Jams From The Bardo"Red Voice" Section 25, Blackpool Rox EP"Rose Apple Island" Section 25, Jams From The Bardo"New Horizon" Section 25"Death" Side B, Zyklon B Zombies backing tape"Sex Machine" Crawling Chaos (demo) LINKSSection 25: https://section25.com/Crawling Chaos: https://crawlingchaos.co.uk/Factory Records archive: https://factoryrecords.org/ Section 25 "Jams From The Bardo" is available on Klanggalerie.https://klanggalerie.bandcamp.com/album/jams-from-the-bardo FIND UShttps://cassetteculturepodcast.com SUPPORTERSHelp us keep Cassette Culture alive! This podcast is enabled by generous supporters who contribute toward the costs of researching, producing and publishing each episode. You can become one of them at: https://cassetteculturepodcast.bandcamp.com/subscribeHelp keep Cassette Culture alive - Become a Supporter: https://cassetteculturepodcast.bandcamp.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
From 1978-1980, Throbbing Gristle's Industrial Records published a newsletter called Industrial News. With a philosophy of exchange and transparency, they listed attendance numbers at their concerts, future label plans, and a list of contacts who had mailed them tapes of their own music: the “Tapes Received” list. Capturing a cultural watershed moment where the bedroom bands of the DIY Punk scene gave way to something new: ambitious, experimental, abstract, industrial. Making music using the newly available technology of synthesisers, with tape media and looping as part of the creative process. In this episode of Cassette Culture we begin to unravel the story of those tapes sent to Industrial Records - what was on them, and what became of the artists who sent them? At the centre of this episode is Val Denham - painter, singer and tape experimentalist. We hear how a deliberately provocative letter to Genesis P. Orridge loaded with insider references, led to a invitation to London and the beginning of a friendship that would influence her creative life. Her early tape recordings won fans in Genesis and Peter Christopherson and almost became a release on Industrial Records. Val walks us through the London of the late 70’s, studying at the Royal College Of Art while creating striking artwork for TG gig flyers, attracting Some Bizarre Records’ Stevo and Marc Almond to her Degree Show. Then later creating album artwork for Marc & The Mambas, Psychic TV, and Throbbing Gristle. Philip Sanderson of Storm Bugs and Richard Rupenus of Funeral Dance Party offer their own stories of corresponding with TG, sending in tapes, and finding themselves part of a growing international network of like-minded artists. Richard received an encouraging letter from Genesis himself; Philip developed his own music as Vote Police, Storm Bugs and launched his label, Snatch Tapes. Years later, after the death of Genesis P. Orridge both contributed to a search for the original “tapes received” cassettes. A search that ended at the Tate Gallery archive and, ultimately, led nowhere. Hosted by Martin Franklin. Theme music "This Is Concrete" by The Happy Citizen. DISCOVER THE VIDEOYou can find videos of cassette tapes, artefacts and unboxings from the cassette underground on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast IN THIS EPISODE THANKSWe have benefited from the extensive knowledge of Richard Rupenus for the theme and many factual ingredients in this episode. Jerry Kranitz co-hosts all interviews recorded for the series. VOICESMartin FranklinRichard RupenusPhilip SandersonVal DenhamGenesis P Orridge and Cosey Fanni Tutti recording from the “Other, Link Me” COUM Transmissions documentary, (BBC Television)Richard Rupenus, read by Tim Nice. MUSIC“Untitled” Funeral Danceparty, Quertyuiop (self released cassette)BBC Newsbeat Radio Special, 1976, 23 Drifts To Guestling, (Iham Productions)“Swimming” Val Denham,“Solely From” Storm Bugs, A Safe Substitute “Untitled” Funeral Danceparty, Quertyuiop (self released cassette)“Time Is Money” Val Denham“Blue Red Sky” Death And Beauty Foundation (Vinyl On Demand)“Make customers Matter” Storm bugs, Table Matters“Untitled” Funeral Danceparty, A Celebration of iDeath (Vinyl On Demand) LINKS Industrial Records: http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/industrialrecords/Snatch Tapes/Philip Sanderson: https://snatchtapes.bandcamp.com/ Available from Vinyl On Demand:Funeral Danceparty 'A Celebration of iDEATH' Recordings 1979-82 (2Lp/7inch)https://vod-records.com/-1-18-500.htmVal Denham Box Set incl Silverstar Amoeba, Counterdance and Death & Beauty Foundationhttps://vod-records.com/-1-18-749.htm FIND US https://cassetteculturepodcast.com SUPPORTERS Help us keep Cassette Culture alive! This podcast is enabled by generous supporters who contribute toward the costs of researching, producing and publishing each episode. You can become one of them at: <a href="https://cassetteculturepodcast.bandcamp.com/subscrib
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The stories of the global underground movement that shaped experimental music and culture, told by the artists that were there. For two decades during the '80's and '90's, the international mail system fostered a network of underground artists, exchanging cassette tapes of music and homemade artwork all under the radar of mainstream media. Taking the DIY message of Punk as a jumping off point, we travel through the network to find the creators of the fanzines, the music, the labels and events.
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