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A trucking podcast that covers all aspects of bulk freight trucking. Hosted by Jared Flinn, owner of multiple trucking-related businesses. Jared brings on a new guest weekly to discuss technology, innovation, safety & compliance, insurance, trucking success stories, and much more related to the bulk freight trucking industry. This podcast hits on all aspects of the industry, our audience includes bulk haulers, shippers, brokers, merchandisers, farmers, and more.
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Watch on YouTube Ted Fyock Jr. spent six years as an Army armor officer, deployed to Iraq with the 3rd Infantry Division, and then built a career in consulting before starting Carolina Expressways, a bulk freight brokerage, from nothing. Jared Flinn sat down with Ted at Fort Hunt, Virginia, on land George Washington once owned, to walk the whole road. Winston-Salem roots and a family that has served in nearly every American conflict since the Revolutionary War. ROTC at Appalachian State and a commission in 2007, at the height of the surge. Kuwait, Baghdad, and Sadr City. Marrying at 24 and meeting his wife in Paris at the six month mark of a twelve month deployment. Then twelve years at Deloitte Consulting that ended when DOGE cut roughly $20 million of the contract work he was leading and a reduction in force followed. At Oktoberfest at his church, he turned to his wife and told her he was going to start a business. The back half is the freight education. Why he chose bulk instead of a saturated broker market, what his first Bulk Freight Conference in Branson did for a guy with zero industry experience, and the tuition he has paid in year one, including a truck hauling corn that was struck by a CSX train. He gets into how a brand new brokerage gets in a shipper's door, why veteran owned is more than a line on a website, how running supply for a tank company translates to moving hoppers, moving a skid steer to a private island, and where Carolina Expressways is headed by 2030. Faith, family, and 250 years of American opportunity close it out. CHAPTERS 00:00 Fort Hunt, Virginia, on land George Washington owned 01:34 A family that has served since the Revolutionary War 04:00 ROTC at Appalachian State and commissioning in 2007 05:11 What an armor officer actually does 07:05 Married at 24, then a year apart 10:21 Kuwait, Baghdad, and Sadr City 13:20 Coming home and the assignment at Walter Reed 17:53 Leaving the Army at the six year mark <a class= "ytAttributedStringLink ytAttributedStringLinkCallToActionColor" tabindex="0" href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
Watch on YouTube Emery Sapp & Sons is 100% employee owned, 3,000 employee owners strong, with 98 millionaires and about 600 trucks on the road every day. Jared Flinn sat down with co-CEO Robert Gillis in Columbia, Missouri to talk about what happens when a founder sells his company to the people who built it. Billy Sapp started in 1972 because the civil contractors wouldn't show up on time, so he did the work himself. In 1999 he and his partners sold the whole thing to their employees through an ESOP. Twenty six years later, 15 new millionaires were made in a single year, and most of them work in the field. Robert breaks down how the ESOP actually works, why about a quarter of every employee's salary goes into it, and why more owners don't take that path. He also gets into the $2.8 billion I-70 reconstruction between Kansas City and St. Louis, the $608 million stretch ESS won coming out of St. Louis, the broken gas tax that funds our roads, and the freight side of heavy civil, including the 600 company trucks plus the third party haulers, quarry trucks, and brokers it takes to keep aggregate moving. If you haul rock, asphalt, or aggregate, this is a look at the other end of the load. CHAPTERS 00:00 Meet Robert Gillis, co-CEO of Emery Sapp & Sons 01:55 Billy Sapp, 1972, and the problem that started the company 03:30 What an ESOP actually is, in plain terms 06:43 Why more owners don't sell to their employees 10:30 98 millionaires, and 59% of them work in the field 12:04 If it's in the dirt, on the dirt, or over the dirt 14:00 The $2.8 billion I-70 rebuild and the $608 million job 19:30 The gas tax problem nobody talks about 22:25 What trucking really means to a heavy civil contractor <a cl
Watch on YouTube Jesse Knight bought a four-axle dump truck the fall after he graduated high school in 1992, because there wasn't enough family farm ground left for a third man. Thirty-five years later, Knight Trucking runs roughly 40 trucks out of Lebo, Kansas, split evenly between end dumps and pneumatics, hauling rock, sand, salt, and food-grade freight across the Midwest. In this episode, Jared Flinn sits down with Jesse and his son Colby for a conversation two decades in the making, Jared first knocked on this door 20 years ago working truck logistics at Bartlett Grain. Jesse walks through the whole climb: leasing to a local rock hauler and sitting four months every winter, merging equipment with his dad and brother to form Knight Trucking in 1996, running the business out of his parents' house with his mom keeping the books, and then landing the I-70 milling and aggregate contracts that forced him to scale from a few trucks to nearly 60 almost overnight, while still driving one himself. He's candid about the parts most operators won't discuss: why he walked away from construction work when the risk stopped matching the reward, why he converted his owner operator fleet into company assets, how he prices freight so the truck actually makes money, what the Peterbilt 386 rollout cost him in repainted hoods, and why chasing kosher certification for his food-grade salt trailers produced about six loads before the business dried up. Colby shares his side too, diesel tech certificate, years in the shop, and getting handed the dispatch board when his dad left for a three-month trip. It closes on the two things Jesse says actually matter after 35 years: drivers who've stayed 10 to 30 years, and a family that never let the business divide it. ⏱️ TIMECODES 0:00 - 20 Years Later: Full Circle in Lebo, Kansas 1:22 - No Room Left on the Family Farm 1:58 - Buying the First Dump Truck in 1992 3:19 - Merging the Family Equipment: Knight Trucking is Born 5:38 - The I-70 Project: A Few Trucks to 60 in Months 8:30 - What Milling Actually Is (And Why It Takes So Many Trucks) 10:11 - How a "Snot-Nosed Kid" Won Big Construction Contracts <span class="ytAttributedStri
On his deathbed, Keith Titus told his son: "You're not welcome at Page. I have a plan, and you're not part of it." Three years later, the plan had failed. The company was down from 230 trucks to 70, losing a million dollars a year, and the bank had cut them off. Then Dan's mom — a 27-year school bus driver who never worked a day in the business — made a decision that changed everything: she put every dollar of her husband's life insurance into the company. "I grew up on a dirt-poor farm. I've got no problem going back there." In this episode, Dan Titus of Page Trucking sits down with us in upstate New York to share one of the most incredible comeback stories in bulk freight: five generations on the Titus family farm, a trucking company started in 1974 with $5,000 from his great-grandfather, losing his dad and grandfather a year apart, and rebuilding Page into 500 trucks, 900 trailers, and 650 families — hauling everything from grain to hazardous waste to 1,400° molten metal down the highway. Oh, and they heat their warehouses with Bitcoin miners. ⏱️ CHAPTERS 00:00 Outgrowing the building (again) 01:56 Five generations on the Titus farm — Cato, NY, since 1809 02:32 Dad starts brokering freight without Grandpa knowing 05:28 $5,000 from Great-Grandpa to start a trucking company 06:00 Why it's called "Page" — the $250 authority 08:07 Why his dad chose trucking over farming 13:24 "You're not welcome at Page" — his dad's dying plan 15:21 Mom inherits a collapsing business 21:05 Betting the life insurance money on the company 22:37 Half the pay, twice the hours — Dan comes home 25:45 Buying the business back from Mom 26:40 Teamsters, a $3M pension liability & near-bankruptcy 29:00 From 230 trucks… to 70… to 500 today 32:37 Closed-loop hauling: scrap, dross & aluminum 34:27 Hauling 1,400° molten metal on the highway 38:24 Overweight permits & custom trailer designs 43:40 The Goulet Trucking acquisition 51:42 Why waste hauling is huge in the Northeast 56:22 Heating warehouses with Bitcoin miners 01:04:18 Keith Titus — the next generation 01:09:45 No handouts: earning your way into the family business 01:14:25 The chip on his shoulder — out-innovating $20B competitors 01:20:38 "I'm not ready" — why Page will never sell 01:24:13 Raising sharks, not minnows ABOUT BULKLOADS We started 15 years ago connecting bulk carriers with shippers and brokers in the ag and bulk industry — and today we're much more than a load board. Our mission is simple: serve this industry, support small businesses and trucking families, and help them succeed.
They fined him $18 million. He built a diesel empire anyway. Jerad Wittwer grew up the son of a St. George milkman and rancher, overhauled his first engine at 13, and turned a passion for horsepower into Performance Diesel Inc. (PDI) — one of the most recognized names in diesel performance. But the road there ran straight through one of the most controversial chapters in trucking: EPA investigations, deleted trucks, and an $18 million federal fine. In this episode, Jerad sits down with Jared Flinn for an unfiltered conversation about the whole journey — the rise, the reckoning, and the redemption. He opens up about the mistakes he made at the top, how his faith and family pulled him back, and how PDI reinvented itself into a manufacturer building 12,000+ part numbers that beat OEM quality. Today the company is on track for $55–60 million in revenue, growing 22% a year — and Jerad still isn't for sale. This is a story about horsepower, risk, faith, and the relentless pursuit of building something better. ⏱️ CHAPTERS 0:00 – Welcome & St. George Roots 2:07 – His Grandpa, His Dad & the Milk Route 6:08 – Work Ethic & Overhauling His First Engine at 13 9:57 – Trade School & Early Mechanic Days 12:02 – Marriage, the Milk Route & a Walmart Detour 17:33 – Taking the Leap: Starting Performance Diesel 21:57 – The Tune-Up Boom Years 28:28 – "The Smoke Don't Mean It's Broke" 30:35 – Getting Into Semis & Manufacturing Parts 35:00 – When Emissions Regulations Hit 37:00 – The EPA Comes Knocking 44:58 – The $18 Million Fine 46:07 – The Comeback & Being the Only Company Released 47:36 – Reinventing PDI: 12,000 Parts & Better Than OEM 54:01 – Going Global & the "Gucci of Diesel" 55:45 – The Partner Buyout & Funding Growth 1:01:37 – Vision, Family & the $200 Million Goal 1:08:16 – The Future of Trucking: Autonomous & Electric 1:11:27 – Faith, Peace & Staying Grounded 1:16:14 – Dream It & Do It
Bill Wallis went to work at 13 to help his family. He served in the 101st Airborne, came home, and bought a single gas station in Cuba, Missouri in 1968. Today Wallis Companies runs 67 stores, a 42 truck bulk fleet moving 120 loads a day, and employs around 1,400 people. In this episode, Matt and Alan take us inside the fuel hauling world most truckers never see: the predictive dispatch tech, the back to back state safety awards, why their turnover is almost zero, and the tribute show truck they built for Bill called "Blue Collar Roots." CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro: Meet Matt and Alan 0:41 From a K9 trainer and a livestock hauler to Wallis 5:18 How Bill Wallis started it all in 1968 8:34 One gas station to 67 stores and 1,400 employees 12:40 The Covid pivot into ag hauling (and finding BulkLoads) 15:10 Inside the fleet: 42 trucks running 24/7 18:26 Where the fuel actually comes from 19:13 The art of maximizing every load 21:13 What keeps them up at night 25:37 Three generations of a family run company 32:30 Hauling hazmat: the safety culture 34:23 Winning the state fleet safety award twice 38:38 "Blue Collar Roots": the tribute show truck Subscribe for more real stories from the people moving America's bulk freight. #trucking #fuelhauling #familybusiness #bulkfreight #BulkLoads
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/qF-YbIEGZJM Rob and Kate have been together since high school. Years ago they took over the family farm and trucking operation, doubled the business, and then watched 2025 turn into the hardest year of their lives. In this episode they get honest about what it actually takes to run a trucking company as a husband and wife team. The 16-hour days through the freight recession. The financial calls that kept them up at night. The hardest decision they ever had to make. And how they protected their marriage and their kids while fighting to keep the trucks moving. If you run a fleet, drive for one, or you are trying to survive this market alongside the people you love, this conversation is going to hit home. Chapters 00:00 A Different Company Than the Last Time We Talked 01:51 Building Trucking Jobs Young Families Actually Want 02:50 Why Kate Walked Away From Her Career 05:39 Cutting Costs by Bringing Everything In-House 08:00 How They Doubled the Business in 5 Years 09:14 "2025 Was a Bloodbath" 09:34 When the Freight Recession Followed Them Home 10:52 The Support That Got Them Through the Worst Year 13:23 Trauma Bonding and Mental Health in Trucking 15:40 Yin and Yang: How Two Opposites Run a Company 17:21 "I Haven't Seen Our Bank Account in 5 Years" 17:53 Why Rob Has to Pitch His Own Wife to Buy a Truck 22:15 "I Have a Name": More Than the Owner's Wife 22:46 The Hardest Call They Ever Had to Make 26:43 Retire at 52? Building the Long-Term Vision 29:10 Working Yourself Out of Your Own Business 30:05 The One Job Rob Can't Replace: Sales 34:07 Will Their Kids Take Over the Family Business? 38:01 Legacy Without Setting Your Kids Up to Fail 41:30 Real Advice for Surviving a Freight Recession 43:46 The Covid Mistake That Cost Them Later 45:36 Who's Really in Your Corner When It Gets Hard 50:06 Closing: People Serving People BulkLoads.com - https://www.bulkloads.com/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Video&utm_campaign=Grover_Podcast Bulk Insurance Group - https://www.bulkinsurancegroup.com/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Video&utm_campaign=Grover_Podcast BulkLoads Factoring - https://www.smartfreightfunding.com/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Video&utm_campaign=Grover_Podcast BulkLoads TMS - https://www.bulktms.com/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Video&utm_campaign=Grover_Podcast BulkInsights - https://www.bulkfreightinsights.com/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Video&utm_campaign=Grover_Podcast
Tom Keller spec'd his first truck at 20 years old to haul watermelons off his family's farm. He'd drive a load to Indianapolis, not like the price, keep driving to Detroit, sell them, and set the cash on the kitchen table — then do it again the next morning. That hustle became Keller Logistics Group: 350 trucks, four divisions, and $200 million in sales out of Defiance, Ohio. In this episode, Jared Flinn sits down with Bryan Keller and Jonathan Wolfrum to unpack how a melon farmer's instinct for finding the next opportunity built a company that's survived every freight cycle since — including the recession that just leveled half the dry van market. They get into the speculative warehouse bets, walking away from General Motors, why they moved into bulk and ag freight, and what it actually takes to be named a Best Fleet to Drive For nine years running. If you're a carrier, owner-operator, or fleet owner trying to figure out your next move, this one's full of plays you can run. ➡️ Hauling bulk or looking to grow your freight? Find loads and grow your operation at https://bulkloads.com?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Video&utm_campaign=Keller_Podcast 🎥 Want your story featured on the channel? Get featured at https://bulkloadsmedia.com CHAPTERS 00:00 – Meeting Tom Keller 00:24 – The watermelon farm that started it all 01:22 – The Detroit melon run (cash on the kitchen table) 03:05 – From farm machinery to five trucks 04:10 – The thank-you card that landed Bryan the job 05:48 – "Bryan, we gotta be organized" 07:14 – Out-engineering the big carriers 08:58 – Scaling from 20 trucks and the warehouse gamble 12:39 – The 332,000 sq ft Dallas bet 15:04 – Walking away from General Motors 16:17 – The Campbell Soup phone call that changed everything 17:08 – Jonathan joins — 350 trucks today 20:48 – Faith, the prayer room, and "give to grow" 21:38 – Inside the Ignite Academy 25:29 – Why Keller moved into bulk and ag 29:54 – Farm roots run deep 32:12 – Breaking through growth plateaus with EOS 35:36 – Building a legacy, not a payday 36:39 – 9 years as a Best Fleet to Drive For 38:37 – The driver advisory board 42:53 – Closing thoughts
A trucking podcast that covers all aspects of bulk freight trucking. Hosted by Jared Flinn, owner of multiple trucking-related businesses. Jared brings on a new guest weekly to discuss technology, innovation, safety & compliance, insurance, trucking success stories, and much more related to the bulk freight trucking industry. This podcast hits on all aspects of the industry, our audience includes bulk haulers, shippers, brokers, merchandisers, farmers, and more.
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