
After Bybit, the CDS hack, and Kelp DAO, Austin Campbell argues that DeFi's foundational assumption — that incoming transactions should be treated as legitimate — may no longer hold. Ram Ahluwalia pushes back: change that assumption and you risk giving up immutability and finality. Austin draws the distinction: an immutable chain and a skeptical transaction queue aren't mutually exclusive. Michael Bentley, who built the Euler lending protocol, explains why the problem runs deeper than resources or audits. AMMs like Uniswap are self-contained; they don't care about the outside world. Lending protocols are structurally dependent on external prices, liquidity conditions, and third-party oracles — making true immutability unreachable. The question isn't whether to add centralizing safeguards; it's how many, and which ones, and whether DeFi can survive the trade-offs. This clip is from a longer conversation on DeFi security, the $290M Kelp DAO hack, and the future of yield-bearing stablecoins. Full episode here: https://youtube.com/live/tB5_2lUy4fs We go live every Monday at 4:30 PM ET — subscribe to catch it live. Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, X, Unchained and wherever you get your podcasts.
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