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- 1 weeks ago51 min
#358 | Tick Prevention for Hunters and Bird Dogs with Travis Avery
Tick prevention for hunters and bird dogs starts before the first walk through cover. Travis Avery of Sawyer Products joins Nick to talk about permethrin, treated clothing, and what happens when a tick reaches that fabric.I've sprayed my hunting pants for years, but I hadn't spent much time thinking about what the treatment was doing two weeks later. No smell. Nothing I could see. Travis's explanation helped me connect that familiar routine to how the product works. We also discuss treating boots and socks, along with the dog beds and kennel pads I already spray.We talk about the difference between a fabric treatment and a topical repellent, why drying matters, and how Travis approaches prevention with his dog Murphy. The conversation also covers tick checks and the extra care involved when cats are around. We open with Sawyer's water filters and a few ways they can fit into a hunting vest, a truck, or a trip with the dogs.The idea is to spend more time in the woods with a routine that makes sense.Questions from the episodeHow is permethrin different from a topical insect repellent?Permethrin is the fabric treatment at the center of this conversation. Travis describes it as a contact insecticide, while DEET and picaridin serve as topical repellents. Nick asks how those approaches fit together when a hunter has treated clothing but still has exposed skin. The distinction helped him better understand the routine he already uses.Why can treated hunting clothes still work two weeks later?The treatment bonds with the fabric rather than depending on a smell that Nick can detect. Travis compares that bond to dye in a shirt. He describes sunlight and washing as factors that reduce its effectiveness over time. For Nick, that explains why an odorless pair of treated pants can still be part of his routine.How long does Sawyer's clothing treatment last?Sawyer describes its clothing treatment as lasting up to six weeks or six washings, whichever comes first. Travis discusses that window alongside sunlight, laundering, and time in the field. Nick connects it to the early grouse season, when he is regularly walking through tick cover. The current product label gives the application and retreatment directions.What changed in Nick's thinking about bird dogs and ticks?Nick already uses an oral preventive for his setters and treats their beds and kennel pads. Hearing how permethrin works on contact made him curious about treating the dogs themselves. Travis describes his routine with Murphy and points listeners to Sawyer's dog-specific instructions. That conversation is about an additional layer, with the product label and a veterinarian guiding any individual dog's use.Where does water filtration fit into a bird-hunting trip?Travis carries a filter when fly fishing and describes options for a hunting vest, truck, cabin, or group camp. Nick starts from a place where water is usually available, then thinks about western hunts and carrying enough for himself and the dogs. They also discuss the limits of standard filters, including viruses and chemical contamination.Connect with SawyerSawyer Products: https://www.sawyer.com/Permethrin product details and dog application instructions: https://www.sawyer.com/products/permethrin-fabric-treatmentSawyer on Instagram: https://instagram.com/sawyerproductsListen and followSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/birdshot-podcast/id1288308609YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@birdshot.podcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdshot.podcast/Website: https://www.birdshotpodcast.com/SponsorsThis episode is brought to you by Upland Gun Company, Final Rise, and Irish Setter Boots.Upland Gun Company: https://uplandguncompany.com/Final Rise Shirt of the Month: https://finalrise.com/pages/upland-shirt-subscriptionIrish Setter Pheasants Forever Edition: <a href="https://irishsetterboots.com/phea
- 3 weeks ago1h 35m
#357 | What Wild Birds Teach a Pointing Dog with Mark Payton
Wild bird contacts can shape a pointing dog in ways a training setup cannot. Mark Payton joins Nick to talk about first seasons, launchers, steadiness, and letting birds teach. Mark is the author of Favorite Ways to Train Your Bird Dog and a longtime bird hunter who has worked dogs for the public for about 15 years. He returns to the podcast for a listener-question episode built around developing young dogs, carrying yard work into new places, and recognizing what a dog is saying before adding more pressure. I have a new setter pup at my feet this season, so this one landed at the right time. We talk about how little formal work a young pointing dog may need before its first fall, what early wild-bird opportunity can open up, and why a puppy's light-bulb moment tends to stick with the person holding the gun. Mark remembers Izzy pointing a quail single before she was six months old. With another dog, he went into the field with a puppy and came out with a bird dog. The conversation also gets practical. Mark explains his wooden backing silhouette, his use of remote launchers, the difference between steady to flush and steady through the fall, and why he treats a launcher as a stand-in for a wild bird rather than a machine for making a dog point. His recurring question is a useful one: what would a wild bird do? Later, we get into whoa posts, flank collars, relocation, gun introduction, e-collar timing, trash breaking, retrieving, and the limited role of a wing on a string. The larger idea stays simple. Build the dog's love for birds, give it meaningful opportunity, and pay attention to the small signals along the way. Chapters 00:00 Let the wild bird teach the dog 02:37 Short bird dog training sessions and consistency 04:58 Mark Payton's bird dog background 11:33 How much training does a young pointing dog need? 21:47 Letting the dog and bird work it out 22:14 A young bird dog's first hunting season 28:24 Building bird drive in a hesitant puppy 31:02 Developing range and independence 33:26 Teaching backing with a wooden silhouette 43:16 Helping dogs generalize training in new places 46:05 E-collar timing and command reinforcement 48:58 When a young dog catches a training bird 50:37 Using a launcher like a wild bird 54:35 Steady to flush, wing, shot, and fall 1:00:00 Whoa posts and flank collars 1:03:54 Letting a pointing dog relocate on moving birds 1:07:28 Reading small signals during gun introduction 1:10:28 Trash breaking and deer chasing 1:14:37 Retrieving and force fetch 1:19:15 The limited role of wing on a string 1:28:00 Birds, breaks, and taking away the chase 1:30:16 Why wild birds become the best teacher 1:33:47 Where to find Mark Payton Questions from the episode How much training does a young pointing dog need before its first season? Mark keeps the early program fairly light: recall, collar conditioning, bird introduction, gun introduction, and enough bird work for the dog to begin pointing. He prefers to build a love for birds and let the first hunting season provide experience. More formal polish can come later, often when the dog is roughly nine to 15 months old. Is it a good idea to hunt a puppy during its first season? Mark believes a first season can be valuable when the puppy is physically ready and has the basic preparation to be safe in the field. The goal is opportunity, not finished performance. His own young dogs pointed wild quail and woodcock before six months, while another dog needed more time before the light came on during a scattered covey. What does a young bird dog's light-bulb moment look like? It is the point when bird contacts begin to make sense to the dog. Nick remembers Rose moving from a very young puppy to reliably pointing grouse as the season progressed. Mark remembers one dog sticking quail singles so clearly that he felt he had walked into the field with a puppy and walked out with a bird dog. Why does Mark Payton use a remote bird launcher? Mark treats a remote launcher as a tool for simulating the consequence a wild bird would give a dog. If the dog crowds the scent cone, approaches from the wrong side of the wind, or gets too close, the bird leaves. That loss of opportunity helps many dogs learn to stop and point without the handler manufacturing the point. Will catching one training pigeon ruin a pointing dog? One caught pigeon is unlikely to create a lasting problem, especially with a young dog still developing bird drive. Repeated catches are different because they can teach the dog that birds are available to grab. Mark moves away from easy catches once the dog's interest is established and uses stronger-flying birds or launchers to pr
- Aug 21, 20261h 7m
#356 | What Grouse Hunting Is Really About with Andy Wayment
Idaho Grouse Fever author Andy Wayment joins Nick to talk about bird dogs, grouse literature, favorite shotguns, and what keeps a life of grouse hunting meaningful. Andy returns to the podcast with two new projects: Idaho Grouse Fever: An Obsession for All Things Grouse and Breaking Cover, a monthly podcast focused on upland literature and tradition. He explains why his latest book reaches across all five of Idaho's grouse species and mixes hunting stories with classic writing, sporting art, shotguns, named coverts, and the friendships built around them. I was halfway through the book when we recorded, and what kept standing out was Andy's attention to everything surrounding the bird in hand. We talk about Rainy's growth into a seasoned grouse dog, what Aki learned by hunting alongside her, and what I hope Hazel might pick up from Rose this fall. Andy also takes us into the mystery behind Corey Ford's The Road to Tinkham Town, including the clues that suggest its fictional covert was rooted in a real place. The conversation closes with broken and lost Ruger Red Labels, a first ruffed grouse double with a 16-gauge side-by-side, the beauty of Idaho's Franklin grouse, and Andy's belief that the highs and lows are what make progress in the grouse woods feel earned. Chapters 00:00 Keeping grouse hunting honest 01:44 Andy Wayment returns to the Birdshot Podcast 02:44 Breaking Cover and the books behind upland hunting 09:35 Counting down to Idaho's grouse opener 11:36 A new setter, an older dog, and another season 13:27 How Rainy became a seasoned grouse dog 20:21 Teaching a golden retriever to hunt grouse 24:27 What a young dog can learn from an older dog 29:09 Why Andy wrote Idaho Grouse Fever 31:39 Tinkham Town, Sleepy Hollow, and grouse-country fiction 33:32 Ross Young and Jay Dowd bring the book to life 38:41 Searching for the real Tinkham Town 45:08 What grouse hunting becomes over time 48:17 Lost guns, Ruger Red Labels, and shotgun fit 53:37 Andy's first ruffed grouse double 1:01:21 Why Franklin grouse stand out in Idaho 1:04:36 Named coverts and the places hunters remember 1:05:36 Where to find Idaho Grouse Fever Questions from the episode What is Idaho Grouse Fever about? Idaho Grouse Fever: An Obsession for All Things Grouse collects Andy Wayment's stories about hunting all five of Idaho's grouse species. The book also reaches into bird dogs, sporting literature, shotguns, art, named coverts, mistakes, and friendships. Andy describes it as a book for people who think about grouse hunting eight days a week. Why does grouse hunting become about more than finding birds? The hunt grows to include everything surrounding the bird: companionship with dogs, time with friends, the history of a place, and the search itself. Andy says the highs and lows make successful moments sweeter because growth comes through both. Nick adds that if grouse hunting were easy, much of the fun would disappear. Can a golden retriever that is not from hunting stock learn to hunt grouse? Andy's golden retriever Aki did. She first learned by hunting alongside Rainy, watching for the pointing dog's bell to go quiet, and racing in to find birds. Over time, Aki became more independent, worked mostly within about 30 yards, flushed birds in range, and developed into the retriever Andy trusts most with a bird. What is Tinkham Town, and why does it matter to grouse hunters? The Road to Tinkham Town is Corey Ford's classic fictional grouse story. Andy found clues in an unedited version of the story and in writing by Ford's hunting companions that suggest the covert drew from a real place. That turns the story into something close to a treasure hunt for the grouse hunter's ideal cover. Which shotguns does Andy Wayment hunt with? Andy rotates among a Ruger Red Label 12 gauge, a Ruger Red Label 28 gauge with a straight grip, and a 16-gauge TriStar Bristol side-by-side. Fit and confidence determine which gun he carries. The Bristol produced his first ruffed grouse double, while the lighter Red Label 28 remains his go-to grouse gun. What is the Breaking Cover podcast about? Breaking Cover is a monthly conversation about upland hunting books and literary tradition. Andy co-hosts it with Matt Millbauer. Their first episode covered Pheasants of the Mind by Datus C. Proper and Pheasant Hunter's Harvest by Steve Grooms, with later episodes planned around other writers and seasonal themes. Where can listeners find Idaho Grouse Fever? Andy says the book is available through Amazon, while signed copies can be ordered through his Upland Way
- Jul 24, 20261h 11m
#355 | What 39 Years of Guiding Has Taught Jason Curtis About Bird Dogs
New Brunswick guide Jason Curtis shares what 39 years around grouse, woodcock, and wild birds have taught him about developing young bird dogs. Nick welcomes Jason back to the podcast eight years after their first conversation. They start on the Miramichi River, where a fall trip can combine Atlantic salmon fishing with grouse and woodcock hunting, then move into the part of the conversation that hit closest to home: raising a puppy for her first season. Jason explains why he begins exposure work early, how he introduces a wing, birds, a bell, and gunfire without turning puppyhood into a formal training program, and why short sessions woven into everyday life can build the foundation for later work. He and Nick also talk about what younger dogs pick up from older dogs, why solo hunting time still matters, and how real contacts with wild birds can change a dog quickly. The conversation also covers New Brunswick's changing woodcock migration, the timing of a Miramichi cast-and-blast trip, and what visiting hunters need to know about guides, lodges, and the short October window. Chapters 00:00 How wild birds change a young dog 01:52 Jason Curtis returns to the Birdshot Podcast 06:05 Miramichi River salmon outlook 12:27 Planning a grouse, woodcock, and salmon trip 17:09 October cover and the changing woodcock migration 22:52 Jason's path into 39 years of guiding 30:58 Bringing home a new bird dog puppy 35:01 Early puppy exposure and the first bird-dog lessons 41:03 Building steadiness through everyday routines 46:42 Introducing birds and gunfire 51:03 Wild woodcock close to home 52:54 What puppies learn from older dogs 59:27 Planning a New Brunswick upland trip 1:06:13 Bringing young hunters into the uplands 1:07:31 What a strong grouse and woodcock day looks like 1:09:14 Connect with Jason Curtis Questions from the episode When does Jason Curtis begin working with a bird dog puppy? Jason starts as soon as the puppy comes home, but he keeps the work light and playful. He uses short sessions with a wing, a small check cord, and simple moments around food or doorways to introduce the idea of standing still and paying attention. At that age, the goal is exposure and foundation, not polished performance. How does Jason introduce a young dog to birds and gunfire? He begins with sound at a distance while the puppy is occupied and confident, then closes that distance gradually. Around 12 weeks, he may introduce planted birds at a preserve. By roughly 16 weeks, when the individual dog is handling each step well, he likes to begin finding wild birds in real cover. Why are wild birds valuable for a young bird dog? Wild birds teach lessons that planted birds cannot fully reproduce. Their scent, movement, escape behavior, and use of cover require the dog to adjust naturally. Jason has watched young dogs make visible progress after several consecutive days of good wild-bird contacts, especially in New Brunswick covers with strong grouse and woodcock numbers. Do young bird dogs learn from older dogs? They can learn a great deal about range, recall, routine, and backing by watching experienced dogs. Jason still believes the puppy needs solo time so it develops independence instead of simply following. The older dogs help establish the pattern, while individual contacts teach the puppy how to hunt for itself. When is the best time for a New Brunswick cast-and-blast trip? The overlap runs from the September 15 woodcock opener through the October 15 salmon close, but the full grouse, woodcock, and salmon window is October 1 through October 15. Hunters can float and combine both pursuits in one day, or hunt the cooler morning and fish the river later. Does a nonresident need a guide to hunt in New Brunswick? Yes. Jason explains that hunters coming from outside New Brunswick need a licensed guide. A lodge is the simplest all-inclusive route, while an Airbnb paired with the right independent guide can also work. Guide availability is limited during the prime October weeks, so the relationship and timing matter. Connect with Jason Curtis Email: uplandhunter3@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasoncurtismiramichi/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jason.curtis.722439 Listen and follow Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7</a
- Jul 10, 20261h 5m
#354 | TFL Shotgun Fest 2026: Learn From Hall of Fame Pros
TFL Shotgun Fest 2026 is coming to central Minnesota this July, and this year two shotgun Hall of Famers are teaching the clinics. Steve Gould joins Nick to walk through the whole weekend. On this episode, host Nick Larson brings back Steve Gould, creator of the Target Focused Life YouTube channel and part-owner of the Alexandria Shooting Park, to preview the second annual TFL Shotgun Fest. The event runs Friday, July 24 (development day plus VIP night) and Saturday, July 25 (the main shooting day) at the Alexandria Shooting Park in central Minnesota. The headline this year is the talent. Corey Cruz, a two-time national champion, world champion, and National Sporting Clays Hall of Fame inductee, is running sporting clays clinics. Richard Marshall Jr., a 35-time All-American and multiple Grand American winner on the trap side, is running trap clinics. Both are kept small on purpose: five shooters per session, half a day, real range time and real feedback. Del Whitman is on-site doing gun fittings. Beyond the clinics there are manufacturer demos where you can get hands-on and actually shoot a rack of different shotguns, an Upland Gun Company booth with a new RFM shotgun to see, and over $10,000 in prizes, including a custom 250th-anniversary shotgun for high overall. Then there's the unconventional stuff Steve's crew is known for: the Can Cannon Challenge, the Benelli AI Challenge, and the Wheel of Shotgun Fortune. The day closes with an Annie Oakley tournament and a social hangout. There's a thread running under all of it that matters more than the prize wall. Steve talks about how people are starved for in-person connection, and how an event like this is really about getting folks who love shotguns in the same place for a weekend. We also get into Steve's first trip to Italy and the Benelli and Perazzi factories, the Minnesota high school trap tournament that ran 7,700 kids through the range, a good stretch on barrel length and gun fit, and the ShotTracker training tool that might one day track a flushing grouse. Clinics, camping, and tickets are limited, so check the website for current availability. Chapters: 0:00 - Meet the Hall of Fame Clinic Pros 2:00 - Welcome Back: Steve Gould, Target Focused Life 2:35 - MN High School Trap and 7,700 Young Shooters 7:00 - A New Sporting Clays Course at Alexandria 8:15 - Inside Steve's Italy Trip: Benelli and Perazzi 17:15 - Shotgun Fest 2026: The Big Vision 18:30 - Clinics With Corey Cruz and Richard Marshall Jr. 19:15 - Del Whitman Gun Fittings and VIP Night 20:15 - Prizes, the 250th-Anniversary Gun, and Challenges 23:20 - Why People Are Craving In-Person Again 26:50 - How the Weekend Works: Friday and Saturday 27:50 - Manufacturer Demos: Get Hands-On With the Guns 30:20 - The RFM Venus 20ga Grouse Gun 31:30 - Barrel Length, Balance, and Gun Fit 37:00 - A New RFM Sporting Clays Shotgun (First Look) 40:40 - Year One to Year Two: What Changed 44:50 - Small-Group Clinics and How They Work 48:10 - Annie Oakley Tournament and Awards 50:10 - Camping and Lodging in Alexandria 52:20 - Shotgun Find 2.0 and the ShotTracker Tool Resources & Links: Target Focused Life on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TargetFocusedLife TFL Shotgun Fest tickets & clinic registration: https://www.targetfocused.life/shotgunfest Alexandria Shooting Park (camping & booking): https://shootasp.com Shotgun Find (Steve's shotgun research tool): https://shotgunfind.com Support the show: The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By onX Hunt. Use code BSP20 to save 20% on your onX Hunt subscription. Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/birdshot (from $5/month, and you get Birdshot can coolers and stickers as a thank-you). Follow the show: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: https://BirdshotPodcast.com Listen: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/birdshot-podcast/id1288308609 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIF3w6P9rkuciwX-jEMG3g Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- Jul 10, 20261h 0m
#354 | TFL Shotgun Fest 2026: Learn From Hall of Fame Pros
TFL Shotgun Fest 2026 is coming to central Minnesota this July, and this year two shotgun Hall of Famers are teaching the clinics. Steve Gould joins Nick to walk through the whole weekend. On this episode, host Nick Larson brings back Steve Gould, creator of the Target Focused Life YouTube channel and part-owner of the Alexandria Shooting Park, to preview the second annual TFL Shotgun Fest. The event runs Friday, July 24 (development day plus VIP night) and Saturday, July 25 (the main shooting day) at the Alexandria Shooting Park in central Minnesota. The headline this year is the talent. Corey Cruz, a two-time national champion, world champion, and National Sporting Clays Hall of Fame inductee, is running sporting clays clinics. Richard Marshall Jr., a 35-time All-American and multiple Grand American winner on the trap side, is running trap clinics. Both are kept small on purpose: five shooters per session, half a day, real range time and real feedback. Del Whitman is on-site doing gun fittings. Beyond the clinics there are manufacturer demos where you can get hands-on and actually shoot a rack of different shotguns, an Upland Gun Company booth with a new RFM shotgun to see, and over $10,000 in prizes, including a custom 250th-anniversary shotgun for high overall. Then there's the unconventional stuff Steve's crew is known for: the Can Cannon Challenge, the Benelli AI Challenge, and the Wheel of Shotgun Fortune. The day closes with an Annie Oakley tournament and a social hangout. There's a thread running under all of it that matters more than the prize wall. Steve talks about how people are starved for in-person connection, and how an event like this is really about getting folks who love shotguns in the same place for a weekend. We also get into Steve's first trip to Italy and the Benelli and Perazzi factories, the Minnesota high school trap tournament that ran 7,700 kids through the range, a good stretch on barrel length and gun fit, and the ShotTracker training tool that might one day track a flushing grouse. Clinics, camping, and tickets are limited, so check the website for current availability. Chapters: 0:00 - Meet the Hall of Fame Clinic Pros 2:00 - Welcome Back: Steve Gould, Target Focused Life 2:35 - MN High School Trap and 7,700 Young Shooters 7:00 - A New Sporting Clays Course at Alexandria 8:15 - Inside Steve's Italy Trip: Benelli and Perazzi 17:15 - Shotgun Fest 2026: The Big Vision 18:30 - Clinics With Corey Cruz and Richard Marshall Jr. 19:15 - Del Whitman Gun Fittings and VIP Night 20:15 - Prizes, the 250th-Anniversary Gun, and Challenges 23:20 - Why People Are Craving In-Person Again 26:50 - How the Weekend Works: Friday and Saturday 27:50 - Manufacturer Demos: Get Hands-On With the Guns 30:20 - The RFM Venus 20ga Grouse Gun 31:30 - Barrel Length, Balance, and Gun Fit 37:00 - A New RFM Sporting Clays Shotgun (First Look) 40:40 - Year One to Year Two: What Changed 44:50 - Small-Group Clinics and How They Work 48:10 - Annie Oakley Tournament and Awards 50:10 - Camping and Lodging in Alexandria 52:20 - Shotgun Find 2.0 and the ShotTracker Tool Resources & Links: Target Focused Life on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TargetFocusedLife TFL Shotgun Fest tickets & clinic registration: https://www.targetfocused.life/shotgunfest Alexandria Shooting Park (camping & booking): https://shootasp.com Shotgun Find (Steve's shotgun research tool): https://shotgunfind.com Support the show: The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By onX Hunt. Use code BSP20 to save 20% on your onX Hunt subscription. Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/birdshot (from $5/month, and you get Birdshot can coolers and stickers as a thank-you). Follow the show: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: https://BirdshotPodcast.com Listen: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/birdshot-podcast/id1288308609 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIF3w6P9rkuciwX-jEMG3g Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advert
- Jun 26, 20261h 15m
#353 | Why 95% of Quail Broods Need Disturbed Ground
Quail habitat is the whole story. Kyle Hedges and Frank Loncarich spent five years following bobwhite quail across the Midwest, and the data pointed at one thing over and over: disturbed ground grows birds. On this episode, host Nick Larson brings back Kyle Hedges and Frank Loncarich, two biologists who helped run one of the largest quail habitat studies in the region. From 2014 to 2018 they monitored 500 nests, radio-collared chicks, and even collared raccoons to see how predators move through cover. What came out of it is a genuinely hopeful finding: you can grow quail if you're deliberate about it. The number that anchors the conversation: 95% of their brood locations were in habitat that had been burned, grazed, or otherwise disturbed within the previous 12 months. Grassland managed with fire and cattle beat the old broken-up dairy-farm model on nest success, on survival, and on eggs per nest. The thick, idle CRP field that looks so birdy in January? The chicks can't get through it. Before the quail talk, Nick and the guys swap turkey-season stories and take on the old myth that turkeys are eating quail and grouse into decline. The short version: the timing doesn't add up, and it never did. It's a habitat problem wearing a predator's costume. Chapters: 0:00 - 95% of Broods: The Stat That Reframes Everything 2:19 - Turkey Season Recap and a Mid-Morning Tom 15:14 - Are Turkeys to Blame for Quail and Grouse? 21:57 - Inside the 5-Year Quail Study 25:40 - Usable Space and the Numbers on Nest Success 28:23 - Why Broods Live in Recently Disturbed Cover 31:18 - Prescribed Fire and Grazing at Landscape Scale 34:37 - Why Change Is Hard on Working Farms 36:35 - The Idle CRP Problem 38:40 - How Often to Disturb: Every 1, 2, or 3 Years 41:17 - One Farm for Quail, Turkeys, and Deer 42:10 - Cost Share and the Real Price of a Burn 45:26 - Building a Fire Culture and Burn Associations 46:52 - Native Grass Restoration Goes Mainstream 48:11 - Pollinator Plantings as Quail Habitat 50:08 - What Good Quail Cover Actually Looks Like 53:02 - Shrubby Escape Cover and the 10-20% Rule 54:16 - Eastern Red Cedar and When Woody Cover Helps 59:36 - Predators, Raccoons, and Why Grasslands Win Resources & Links: Land and Legacy: https://landandlegacy.tv/ Kyle Hedges: https://landandlegacy.tv/about/ Frank Loncarich: https://landandlegacy.tv/about/ How to conduct a prescribed burn for upland bird habitat (Project Upland): https://projectupland.com/hunting-conservation/how-to-conduct-a-prescribed-burn-for-upland-bird-habitat/ Support the show: The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By onX Hunt. Use code BSP20 to save 20% on your onX Hunt subscription. Use code BSP10 to save 10% at Meadow Creek Mounts. Use code BS10 to save 10% at Trulock Chokes. Follow the show: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: https://BirdshotPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- Jun 26, 20261h 10m
#353 | Why 95% of Quail Broods Need Disturbed Ground
Quail habitat is the whole story. Kyle Hedges and Frank Loncarich spent five years following bobwhite quail across the Midwest, and the data pointed at one thing over and over: disturbed ground grows birds. On this episode, host Nick Larson brings back Kyle Hedges and Frank Loncarich, two biologists who helped run one of the largest quail habitat studies in the region. From 2014 to 2018 they monitored 500 nests, radio-collared chicks, and even collared raccoons to see how predators move through cover. What came out of it is a genuinely hopeful finding: you can grow quail if you're deliberate about it. The number that anchors the conversation: 95% of their brood locations were in habitat that had been burned, grazed, or otherwise disturbed within the previous 12 months. Grassland managed with fire and cattle beat the old broken-up dairy-farm model on nest success, on survival, and on eggs per nest. The thick, idle CRP field that looks so birdy in January? The chicks can't get through it. Before the quail talk, Nick and the guys swap turkey-season stories and take on the old myth that turkeys are eating quail and grouse into decline. The short version: the timing doesn't add up, and it never did. It's a habitat problem wearing a predator's costume. Chapters: 0:00 - 95% of Broods: The Stat That Reframes Everything 2:19 - Turkey Season Recap and a Mid-Morning Tom 15:14 - Are Turkeys to Blame for Quail and Grouse? 21:57 - Inside the 5-Year Quail Study 25:40 - Usable Space and the Numbers on Nest Success 28:23 - Why Broods Live in Recently Disturbed Cover 31:18 - Prescribed Fire and Grazing at Landscape Scale 34:37 - Why Change Is Hard on Working Farms 36:35 - The Idle CRP Problem 38:40 - How Often to Disturb: Every 1, 2, or 3 Years 41:17 - One Farm for Quail, Turkeys, and Deer 42:10 - Cost Share and the Real Price of a Burn 45:26 - Building a Fire Culture and Burn Associations 46:52 - Native Grass Restoration Goes Mainstream 48:11 - Pollinator Plantings as Quail Habitat 50:08 - What Good Quail Cover Actually Looks Like 53:02 - Shrubby Escape Cover and the 10-20% Rule 54:16 - Eastern Red Cedar and When Woody Cover Helps 59:36 - Predators, Raccoons, and Why Grasslands Win Resources & Links: Land and Legacy: https://landandlegacy.tv/ Kyle Hedges: https://landandlegacy.tv/about/ Frank Loncarich: https://landandlegacy.tv/about/ How to conduct a prescribed burn for upland bird habitat (Project Upland): https://projectupland.com/hunting-conservation/how-to-conduct-a-prescribed-burn-for-upland-bird-habitat/ Support the show: The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By onX Hunt. Use code BSP20 to save 20% on your onX Hunt subscription. Use code BSP10 to save 10% at Meadow Creek Mounts. Use code BS10 to save 10% at Trulock Chokes. Follow the show: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: https://BirdshotPodcast.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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About Birdshot Podcast
Birdshot Podcast, hosted by Nick Larson, is where upland hunters come together. Each week we share conversations that connect the people, stories, and traditions of wingshooting—from bird dogs and shotguns to the birds and landscapes that bring us back season after season.
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