
Glenn McDonald and Andrew Hart discuss how their unlikely friendship has shaped their leadership across Indianapolis's nonprofit, business and faith communities. McDonald, who founded Zionsville Presbyterian Church and served there for 28 years, and Hart, who leads Oaks Academy after starting at Eli Lilly and Company, explore how relationships between clergy and lay leaders can enhance both personal growth and community impact. The two men talk about their shared commitment to serving underresourced communities, the importance of intentional friendships, and practical ways to cultivate joy and purpose in leadership. This episode of the Big Hearted Indy podcast features hosts Greg Enas, Don Palmer and Chris Spangle in conversation about friendship, service and forming whole leaders in Indianapolis. Sign up for Glenn's morning reflections here: https://glennsreflections.com/
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