Beyond the Trip: A Psychedelic Therapy Podcast with Dr Esme Dark

Pedram Dara Centering Lived Experience in Psychedelic Care

June 21, 2026·1h 8m
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In this episode, I'm joined by Pedram Dara, founder and director of Psychedelic Lived Experiences, a global patient-led initiative working to bring lived experience into the heart of psychedelic research, clinical practice, and policy. Drawing on his own experience as a participant in an MDMA-assisted therapy clinical trial, Pedram shares his journey from patient to advocate and discusses some of the key milestones in the evolution of psychedelic-assisted treatments. We explore the growing recognition of lived experience as a vital source of knowledge and how patient perspectives can strengthen safety, ethics, treatment outcomes, and institutional decision-making. Our conversation covers the impact of the Psychedelic Lived Experiences Summit, which has brought together thousands of participants, therapists, researchers, and policymakers from around the world. We also discuss the challenges and opportunities of integrating lived experience into clinical systems, the importance of flexibility within therapeutic models, and why long-term therapeutic relationships may be essential for many people undergoing psychedelic treatment. Finally, Pedram shares his vision for structured advisory boards, training integration, and more accountable systems that place patients and participants at the centre of innovation. This is a thoughtful and timely conversation about what it means to build a psychedelic ecosystem that is not only evidence-based, but also deeply informed by the people whose lives are most affected by these treatments. https://pedramdara.com/ https://psychedeliclivedexperiences.com/summit Keep in touch with me at Beyond the Trip Podcast available anywhere you listen to Podcasts:- https://open.spotify.com/show/5g1sms2EXq72NW64nVQhzC?si=ff3548af32e84bf6 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BeyondtheTrippodcast Insta: dresmedark Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-esme-dark-627156a0/ Website: https://www.esmedarkpsychology.com.au/

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