
Micky is a full-stack engineer who has taught 100K+ people how to build with AI. In our episode, he walked me through his 4-step agentic engineering workflow to avoid pumping out slop: Isolate every task, build to a clear structure, prove via validation loops, and ship after agents review your PRs or escalate to you for a manual look.Micky and I talked about:(00:00) Why most software factories pump out slop(02:06) Step 1 (Isolate): How to run multiple agents at once(07:18) Step 2 (Build): Give agents a structure to build on(10:44) Step 3 (Prove): Build agentic validation loops(16:48) The one step Micky never hands to agents(21:30) Step 4 (Ship): Getting agents to review PRs reliably(28:20) Why Micky doesn't write specs(33:08) Comparing Astra and Fable for coding(43:08) Are AI skills obsolete with today's models?Thanks to our sponsors:Wispr Flow: 4x faster than typing with your voice https://ref.wisprflow.ai/peteryangRiverside: All-in-one AI studio for podcasts and video https://creators.riverside.com/PeterYang📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/agentic-engineering-workflow-ras-micWhere to find Micky:X: https://x.com/RasmicYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RasMicSkills: https://github.com/michaelshimeles/skillsSubscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!
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