Authentic and Agentic with Jayson Manship

Bounce.fm founder Jeb Banner on AI fog, teaching Claude to meditate and the OpenAI IPO

June 10, 2026·1h 25m
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Host Jayson Manship breaks down the latest artificial intelligence news and sits down with serial entrepreneur Jeb Banner on this episode of Authentic and Agentic. In the news segment, Manship explores OpenAI officially filing for an IPO and transitioning from a research lab to answering Wall Street investors. He also analyzes the rollout of Apple Intelligence and Anthropic's decision to release its powerful Fable 5 model after previous safety delays. Banner joins the show to discuss his entrepreneurial journey and his latest venture, Bounce.fm, a platform designed to help music creators finish projects and connect directly with fans. He shares his process of using AI coding tools like Claude and Cursor to build the software. Banner also details the unique experience of creating a local memory file for his AI agent, teaching it to meditate and asking it to write a poem. The conversation dives into the shadow side of technology, with Banner emphasizing the massive energy demands of AI data centers. He highlights the urgent need for new intellectual property models, similar to ASCAP or BMI, to protect musicians whose work is used to train AI tools like Suno. The episode concludes with a discussion on avoiding "AI fog" to manage the mental toll of switching contexts between multiple automated workflows.

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