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A podcast for Freestanding Ambulatory Surgery Centers with Industry Leader John J. Goehle, MBA, CASC, CPA. Mr. Goehle is the author of 10 books about the ASC industry and a frequent speaker at industry meetings.
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- 5 days ago1h 8m
Episode 285 - CMS's Provider-Enrollment Crackdown, Anesthesia Stipends, a BLS Readiness Gap, a Locked Pre-Op Door, Traveling Biomed Checks, and an Interview with Pharmacy Consultants - July 18, 2026
In this episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle, we run through the ASC news that matters — a sweeping CMS enrollment proposal, the anesthesia squeeze, and more — plus a few things we've been seeing out in the field. Then John sits down with two veteran pharmacy consultants for a practical look at medication safety in the surgery center, from patient screening to drug diversion to malignant-hyperthermia readiness. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: CMS seeks new powers to deny or revoke enrollment for “problematic” Medicare providers — Becker’s Hospital Review: beckershospitalreview.com CY2027 Home Health PPS proposed rule (CMS-1844-P) — Medicare enrollment provisions (retroactive revocation, location & affiliation rules, 855B private-equity/REIT disclosure); comments due Aug 31, 2026 — CMS fact sheet: cms.gov Elevance’s 10% out-of-network penalty — 3 payer moves disrupting ASCs, physicians — Becker’s ASC: beckersasc.com Why anesthesia stipends could be inevitable amid outdated ASC models — Becker’s ASC: beckersasc.com Feds: Iowa plastic surgeon defrauded Medicare through false billings — Iowa Capital Dispatch: iowacapitaldispatch.com CMS request for information on episode-based payment for ASCs (ASCA opposed) — ASC News: ascnews.com Companion episode: Episode 283 — Pharmacy Management and Recalls . INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central is our one-stop site for ASC bootcamps, on-demand conferences, and membership programs: conferences.asc-central.com Patron Membership — our base membership for podcast listeners: regular group Zoom sessions, a full resource database to help run your ASC, and several free conferences (Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director, Credentialing, and Finance & Accounting). Become a Patron Member Premium Access Program — includes Patron membership PLUS unlimited Bootcamps (Administrator and Director of Nursing, normally $1,899.99 each), our Credentialing, Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director and Infection Control programs, weekly drop-in Zoom sessions, and up to five hours of private consulting. Sign up for Premium Access Compare both programs: conferences.asc-central.com/membership-programs-2 Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf Updated Guidance for Ambulatory Surgical Centers - Appendix L of the State Operations Manual (SOM) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107ap_l_ambulatory.pdf https://www.cms.gov/medicareprovider-enrollment-and-certificationsurveycert
- 5 days ago1h 15m
Episode 284 – Special Episode: Live from the Colorado Ambulatory Surgery Center Association Conference in Golden, Colorado - July 16, 2026
In this special episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle, recorded live at the Colorado ASC Association's annual conference in Golden, John shares five conversations from the meeting — with association and board leaders, a cardiology-focused ASC, and a center administrator — for a look at what's driving Colorado's surgery centers and why the state conference is worth the trip. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: Colorado Ambulatory Surgery Center Association (CASCA) Website: coloradoasc.org INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central is our one-stop site for ASC bootcamps, on-demand conferences, and membership programs: conferences.asc-central.com Patron Membership — our base membership for podcast listeners: regular group Zoom sessions, a full resource database to help run your ASC, and several free conferences (Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director, Credentialing, and Finance & Accounting). Become a Patron Member Premium Access Program — includes Patron membership PLUS unlimited Bootcamps (Administrator and Director of Nursing, normally $1,899.99 each), our Credentialing, Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director and Infection Control programs, weekly drop-in Zoom sessions, and up to five hours of private consulting. Sign up for Premium Access Compare both programs: conferences.asc-central.com/membership-programs-2 Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf Updated Guidance for Ambulatory Surgical Centers - Appendix L of the State Operations Manual (SOM) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107ap_l_ambulatory.pdf https://www.cms.gov/medicareprovider-enrollment-and-certificationsurveycertificationgeninfopolicy-and-memos-states-and/updated-guidance-ambulatory-surgical-centers-appendix-l-state-operations-manual-som Policy & Memos to States and Regions CMS Quality Safety & Oversight memoranda, guidance, clarifications and instructions to State Survey Agencies and CMS Regional Offices. https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Provider-Enrollment-and-Certification/SurveyCertificationGenInfo/Policy-and-Memos-to-States-and-Regions Other Resources from the ASC Podcast with John Goehle: Visit the ASC Podcast with John Goehle Website Books by John Goehle Get a copy of John’s most popular book - The Survey Guide - A Guide to the CMS Conditions for Coverage & Interpretive Guidelines for Ambulatory Surgery Centers
- 1 weeks ago52 min
Episode 283 - Extreme Heat Halts Surgery, Leapfrog to Rate 4,000 ASCs, Section 504 Deadline, and Focus on Pharmacy Management - July 11, 2026
On this episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle, we discuss the latest news and information, including extreme heat shutting down elective surgery at an Illinois surgery center, a federal court ruling against the Leapfrog Group and Leapfrog's plan to publicly rate nearly 4,000 ASCs later this month, recent drug recalls, and the new Section 504 accessibility requirements. In our focus segment, we discuss pharmacy management and recalls in the ASC. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, MedServe and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: Extreme heat forces an Illinois ASC to halt elective surgeries — Becker’s ASC: beckersasc.com Federal court orders the Leapfrog Group to pull hospital safety grades — Fierce Healthcare: fiercehealthcare.com Pharmacy recall & shortage resources: FDA Drug Recalls: fda.gov/drugs/drug-recalls Drug Shortages (FDA/ASHP via ASCA): ascassociation.org/drug-shortages | Conditions for Coverage §416.48 (eCFR): ecfr.gov §416.48 John's panel — “Winning the ASC Talent War,” ASC News Investments & Operations Conference (Grand Hyatt Denver, July 8–9, 2026); full agenda: ascninvestmentsandoperations.com/2026-agenda Leapfrog ASC Public Reporting Program — nearly 4,000 ASCs publicly rated beginning July 25, 2026 (CMS ASCQR measures, accreditation standards, and the voluntary ASC Survey 2.0): leapfroggroup.org — ASC Program Look up your own center on Leapfrog's Hospital and Surgery Center Ratings site: ratings.leapfroggroup.org INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central is our one-stop site for ASC bootcamps, on-demand conferences, and membership programs: conferences.asc-central.com Patron Membership — our base membership for podcast listeners: regular group Zoom sessions, a full resource database to help run your ASC, and several free conferences (Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director, Credentialing, and Finance & Accounting). Become a Patron Member Premium Access Program — includes Patron membership PLUS unlimited Bootcamps (Administrator and Director of Nursing, normally $1,899.99 each), our Credentialing, Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director and Infection Control programs, weekly drop-in Zoom sessions, and up to five hours of private consulting. Sign up for Premium Access Compare both programs: conferences.asc-central.com/membership-programs-2 Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf Updated Guidance for Ambulatory Surgical Centers - Appendix L of the State Operations Manual (SOM) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107ap_l_ambulatory.pdf https://www.cms.gov/medicareprovider-enrollment-and-certificationsurvey
- 3 weeks ago56 min
Episode 282 - Deep Dive into the Proposed 2027 CMS Payment Rule, Anesthesia Stipends, the NOPAIN Act, a $12M ASC Valuation Lawsuit - July 3, 2026ment Rule - July 3, 2026
In this episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle, we cover a money-focused news segment — the anesthesia stipend crisis by the numbers, a refresher on the NOPAIN Act and the separate Medicare payment it created for non-opioid pain management, and a $12 million ASC valuation lawsuit in Iowa. We also share a few things we've been seeing in the field. Then we go all-in on the big one: CMS's just-released proposed payment rule for 2027 — the proposed ASC update, the market-basket question, the Covered Procedures List, the device and NOPAIN provisions, quality-reporting changes, and the site-of-service savings — plus the summary and spreadsheet we built — and a video walkthrough coming to conferences.asc-central.com — to help you assess the impact on your center. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: Anesthesia stipends by the numbers — Becker's ASC (June 12, 2026): beckersasc.com The NOPAIN Act and separate Medicare payment for non-opioid pain management — ASC News: ascnews.com NOPAIN Act — CMS, Non-Opioid Treatments for Pain Relief (payment details, 42 CFR 416.174): cms.gov Iowa health system and physician group sue over a $12M ASC valuation gap — Becker's ASC: beckersasc.com 2027 Proposed Rule — Resource Library: the CMS proposed rule (CMS-1850-P) and addenda, our comprehensive written summary of the rule, the impact spreadsheet, and the video walkthrough — all gathered in one place: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/j37wvj8v9h15lmbyhjri3/ABzhpV77rpOrshAXqCBv0oY?rlkey=h83k0pf1fb90lzi44463go4w9&dl=0 Video Seminar - “What CMS's Proposed 2027 Payment Rule Means for Your ASC” available on demand for free https://conferences.asc-central.com/2027-payment-rule/ INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central is our one-stop site for ASC bootcamps, on-demand conferences, and membership programs: conferences.asc-central.com Patron Membership — our base membership for podcast listeners: regular group Zoom sessions, a full resource database to help run your ASC, and several free conferences (Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director, Credentialing, and Finance & Accounting). Become a Patron Member Premium Access Program — includes Patron membership PLUS unlimited Bootcamps (Administrator and Director of Nursing, normally $1,899.99 each), our Credentialing, Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director and Infection Control programs, weekly drop-in Zoom sessions, and up to five hours of private consulting. Sign up for Premium Access Compare both programs: conferences.asc-central.com/membership-programs-2 Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf <li style="font-we
- 4 weeks ago45 min
Episode 281 - Surgery Partners Rejects Buyout, Recruitment Challenges, Chasing Volume, and an Interview with Terry Bohlke - June 30, 2026
In this episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle, we cover the latest ASC industry news — Surgery Partners rejecting a $3.2 billion buyout from Bain Capital to stay independent, new VMG Health data on surgeon recruitment and the shift in anesthesia staffing, and a leadership piece on why “chasing volume” can be a surge to the bottom. We also share recent experiences from the field on board certification versus medical-staff bylaws, what surveyors are focusing on right now, and how preparation paid off during a real emergency. Then, in our focus segment, John sits down with Terry Bohlke for an interview on “Leadership in the Trenches.” This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: Surgery Partners rejects Bain Capital buyout — Becker’s ASC (June 2026) North Star Health Alliance to close its Watertown ASC & orthopedic group — Becker’s ASC: beckersasc.com beckersasc.com Biggest physician risks facing ASCs in 2026 (VMG Health survey) — Becker’s ASC | Anesthesia staffing models — Becker’s ASC | Chasing volume is a “surge to the bottom” — Becker’s ASC beckersasc.com/asc-news Guest: Terry Bohlke — “Leadership in the Trenches” INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central is our one-stop site for ASC bootcamps, on-demand conferences, and membership programs: conferences.asc-central.com Patron Membership — our base membership for podcast listeners: regular group Zoom sessions, a full resource database to help run your ASC, and several free conferences (Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director, Credentialing, and Finance & Accounting). Become a Patron Member Premium Access Program — includes Patron membership PLUS unlimited Bootcamps (Administrator and Director of Nursing, normally $1,899.99 each), our Credentialing, Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director and Infection Control programs, weekly drop-in Zoom sessions, and up to five hours of private consulting. Sign up for Premium Access Compare both programs: conferences.asc-central.com/membership-programs-2 Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf Updated Guidance for Ambulatory Surgical Centers - Appendix L of the State Operations Manual (SOM) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107ap_l_ambulatory.pdf https://www.cms.gov/medicareprovider-enrollment-and-certificationsurveycertificationgeninfopolicy-and-memos-state
- 4 weeks ago50 min
Episode 280 – Special Episode: Live from the June 2026 Arizona Ambulatory Surgery Center Association Annual Conference – June 30, 2026
In this special episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle, recorded at the Arizona Ambulatory Surgery Center Association’s Annual Conference at the Sheraton Grand at Wild Horse Pass in Phoenix, Arizona, and in our studios in Spencerport, New York, we share interviews with two of the conference’s featured speakers — Terry Bohlke and Daren Smith — and discuss the benefits of membership in the Arizona ASC Association. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: Arizona Ambulatory Surgery Center Association Website: arizonaasc.org Join or Renew: arizonaasc.org/join Speakers Interviewed from the Conference Terry Bohlke — Leadership in the Trenches Daren Smith — Quality Studies: What to Fix & How to Get It Right INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central is our one-stop site for ASC bootcamps, on-demand conferences, and membership programs: conferences.asc-central.com Patron Membership — our base membership for podcast listeners: regular group Zoom sessions, a full resource database to help run your ASC, and several free conferences (Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director, Credentialing, and Finance & Accounting). Become a Patron Member Premium Access Program — includes Patron membership PLUS unlimited Bootcamps (Administrator and Director of Nursing, normally $1,899.99 each), our Credentialing, Conditions for Coverage, Medical Director and Infection Control programs, weekly drop-in Zoom sessions, and up to five hours of private consulting. Sign up for Premium Access Compare both programs: conferences.asc-central.com/membership-programs-2 Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf Updated Guidance for Ambulatory Surgical Centers - Appendix L of the State Operations Manual (SOM) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107ap_l_ambulatory.pdf https://www.cms.gov/medicareprovider-enrollment-and-certificationsurveycertificationgeninfopolicy-and-memos-states-and/updated-guidance-ambulatory-surgical-centers-appendix-l-state-operations-manual-som Policy & Memos to States and Regions CMS Quality Safety & Oversight memoranda, guidance, clarifications and instructions to State Survey Agencies and CMS Regional Offices. https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Provider-Enrollment-and-Certification/SurveyCertificationGenInfo/Policy-and-Memos-to-States-and-Regions Other Resources from the ASC Podcast with John Goehle: Visit the ASC Podcast with John Goehle Website Books by John Goehle <a href='http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-goehle/the-survey-guide-for-ascs-a-guide-to-the-cms-conditions-for
- Jun 10, 20261h 13m
Episode 279 - Glove Shortages, Survey Experiences, Artificial Intelligence in ASCs and Interview with Mat Giladi with AmbuSun - June 9, 2026
In this episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle we discuss the latest news in the ASC industry, recent survey experiences, Glove Shortages and we continue our year-long series on Artificial Intelligence with an interview with Mat Giladi at AmbuSun. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: CHAT CPR Article from Medical Life Sciences News https://www.news-medical.net/news/20260519/ChatCPR-system-shows-promise-for-improving-emergency-cardiac-arrest-response.aspx ASC Quality Collaboration: ASC Safety & Quality Assessment: https://ascquality.org/asc-safety-quality-assessment/ Flyer for the Assessment: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/l038sdgdmsu33ub7ujm8v/ASC-Safety-Quality-Assessment-Flyer-2026.pdf?rlkey=au3vzvt62hs4zmifroufq6do9&dl=0 INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central, a sister site to http://ascpodcast.com provides a link to all of our bootcamps, educational programs and membership programs! https://conferences.asc-central.com/ Join one of our Membership Programs! Our Patron Program: Patron Members of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle have access to ASC Central - an exclusive membership website that provides a one-stop ASC Regulatory and Accreditation Compliance, Operations and Financial Management resource for busy Administrators, nurse managers and business office managers. More information and Become Member The ASC-Central Premium Access Program A Premium Resource for Ambulatory Surgery Centers including access to bootcamps, education programs and private sessions More Information and Become a Premium Access Program Members Today! Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107_exhibit_351.pdf Updated Guidance for Ambulatory Surgical Centers - Appendix L of the State Operations Manual (SOM) https://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/Guidance/Manuals/downloads/som107ap_l_ambulatory.pdf https://www.cms.gov/medicareprovider-enrollment-and-certificationsurveycertificationgeninfopolicy-and-memos-states-and/updated-guidance-ambulatory-surgical-centers-appendix-l-state-operations-manual-som Policy & Memos to States and Regions CMS Quality Safety & Oversight memoranda, guidance, clarifications and instructions to State Survey Agencies and CMS Regional Offices. <a href='https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Provider-Enrollment-and-Certification/SurveyCertificationGenInfo/Policy-and-Memos-to-
- Jun 5, 202655 min
Episode 278 - Latest News and Information, ASCA 2026, Cardiac Ablations, Anthem Policy and Interview with ASCQC - June 4, 2026
In this episode of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle we discuss the latest news in the ASC industry, recent survey experiences, debrief from ASCA 2026, review the new Anthem policy on out of network providers, discuss Cardiac Ablations in the ASC environment and in our focus segment interview Becky Ziegler-Otis Assistant Executive Director at the ASC Quality Collaboration. This episode is sponsored by Surgical Information Systems, RFX Solutions, Medserve and Ambulatory Healthcare Strategies. Notes and Resources from this Episode: ASC News- May 11, 2026 - Anthem Expands Out of Network Policy: https://ascnews.com/2026/05/hospitals-take-aim-at-anthem-as-insurer-expands-out-of-network-policy-whats-at-stake-for-ascs/?spMailingID=198771&puid=4098726&E=4098726&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=198771 ASC News - May 27th - Cardiac Ablations Moving to ASC’s https://ascnews.com/2026/05/this-is-better-for-patients-doctor-details-advocacy-push-best-practices-for-cardiac-ablations-in-ascs/?spMailingID=201106&puid=4098726&E=4098726&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=201106 ASC Quality Collaboration: Website: https://ascquality.org/ 4th Quarter Quality Report: https://ascquality.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/ASC-Quality-Collaboration-Quality-Report-Fourth-Quarter-2025.pdf ASC Safety & Quality Assessment: https://ascquality.org/asc-safety-quality-assessment/ Flyer for the Assessment: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/l038sdgdmsu33ub7ujm8v/ASC-Safety-Quality-Assessment-Flyer-2026.pdf?rlkey=au3vzvt62hs4zmifroufq6do9&dl=0 INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASC PODCAST WITH JOHN GOEHLE ASC Central, a sister site to http://ascpodcast.com provides a link to all of our bootcamps, educational programs and membership programs! https://conferences.asc-central.com/ Join one of our Membership Programs! Our Patron Program: Patron Members of the ASC Podcast with John Goehle have access to ASC Central - an exclusive membership website that provides a one-stop ASC Regulatory and Accreditation Compliance, Operations and Financial Management resource for busy Administrators, nurse managers and business office managers. More information and Become Member The ASC-Central Premium Access Program A Premium Resource for Ambulatory Surgery Centers including access to bootcamps, education programs and private sessions More Information and Become a Premium Access Program Members Today! Important Resources for ASCs: Conditions for Coverage: https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=42:3.0.1.1.3&idno=42#se42.3.416_150 Infection Control Survey Tool (Used by Surveyors for Infection Control) <a href='https://www.cms.gov/R
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