Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Ray Madoff (on how billionaires avoid taxes & threaten capitalism)

September 2, 2026·2h 26m·8-min readinterviewpolitics
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The U.S. tax code has effectively created a modern aristocracy by allowing the ultra-wealthy to avoid taxes through loopholes, borrowing against assets, and strategic estate planning, while ordinary Americans bear a disproportionate tax burden. This undermines capitalism and demands syste

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Ray Madoff

interview on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

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Books, people, and resources mentioned in this episode.

People

Ray MadoffDaxMonica PadmanEzra KleinChester ThigpenWarren BuffettJeff BezosLarry EllisonElon MuskPaul McCartney

Books

The Second Estateby Ray MadoffThe Theory of the Leisure Classby Thorstein Veblen

Companies

OracleAmazon

Research & Papers

ProPublica IRS leakby Charles Littlejohn

Topics

EconomicsInequalityTaxesUs Politics

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