American Alchemy with Jesse Michels

The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

March 1, 2026·2h 13m·10-min readinterviewtrue crime
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Gary McKinnon, a self-taught British hacker, infiltrated 97 U.S. military and NASA systems in the early 2000s using rudimentary techniques, uncovering what he claims are photographic proof of cigar-shaped UFOs and a spreadsheet titled 'Non-Terrestrial Officers'—evidence that triggered a 1

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Gary McKinnon

interview on American Alchemy with Jesse Michels

Mentions

Books, people, and resources mentioned in this episode.

People

Gary McKinnonDonna HareBen Rich

Books

The Disclosure Projectby Steven GreerThe Man Who Mastered Gravityby Paul Schatzkin

Companies

Office of Naval IntelligenceVeriChip

Topics

CybersecuritySpace ExplorationTrue CrimeUnsolved Mysteries

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