All Things Negotiation

Jenna Nicholas: Negotiating For Purpose And Profit

February 24, 2026·45 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

In this podcast episode, Stan welcomes investor and CEO Jenna Nicholas to discuss the growing inflection point where financial performance aligns with social and environmental impact. They explore Nicholas’s book, "The Enlightened Bottom Line: Exploring the Intersection of Spirituality, Business and Investing," including her motivation to interview investors and business leaders about transformational moments, values, and legacy. Nicholas shares case studies such as Patagonia’s Holdfast Collective structure to perpetuate environmental impact, Panera’s COVID-era partnership to provide school lunches through USDA support, and companies like Devoted Health and Barry-Wehmiller that connect trust and empathy to business performance. Check out Jenna's book at: https://www.jenna-nicholas.com/00:00 Impact Investing Inflection00:57 Negotiation Lessons Revisited01:48 Why Write The Book04:26 Patagonia And Panera Stories07:33 HEAL Framework Explained08:15 ESG Goes Mainstream14:46 Convincing The Skeptics17:00 Trust Purpose And Performance19:39 Spirituality At Work23:13 Embedding Values In Culture25:21 What Is Impact Experience33:40 Measuring Outcomes And Commitments35:50 Education Equity Breakthroughs41:47 Deep Listening As Persuasion44:36 Closing Thoughts And Book Plug

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