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All Things Internal Audit brings you real conversations, practical insights, and expert perspectives from across the profession. Produced by The Institute of Internal Auditors, each episode explores the challenges, innovations, and ideas shaping internal audit today. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of The IIA. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Visit www.theiia.org for more information.
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- 5 days ago25 min
How Two Students Taught 52 Auditors to Build AI Agents
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Alex Rusate talks with Ivan Diaz and Mohamed Maiga, two Utah Valley University students whose curiosity led them to build practical AI tools. They explain how AI agents go beyond chatbots to automate repetitive audit work, why understanding the intended output is essential for validating AI-generated results, and how organizations can begin adopting AI without sacrificing security or human judgment. HOST: Alex Rusate, CIA, CISA, CPA, AAIA, CERP, CRMA, CCSA Senior Vice President and Director of Internal Audit, Arrow Financial GUESTS: Ivan Diaz Accounting Student, Utah Valley University Mohamed Maiga Cybersecurity Graduate, Utah Valley University KEY POINTS: Introduction: Students Teaching Auditors About AI Agents [00:00:00–00:00:35] Ivan's Introduction to the Internal Audit Conference [00:00:36–00:01:33] Finding an Audit Process to Automate [00:01:34–00:02:44] Building an AI Agent Without Technical Experience [00:02:45–00:04:13] Improving Results Through Iteration and Multiple AI Tools [00:04:14–00:05:47] The Difference Between Chatbots and AI Agents [00:05:48–00:07:05] Troubleshooting an Agent and Selecting the Right Model [00:07:06–00:08:20] Validating AI-Generated Audit Work [00:08:21–00:10:24] Designing Effective Instructions and Identifying Red Flags [00:10:25–00:11:43
- 1 weeks ago36 min
Insider Threat Management: Connecting the Dots Before an Incident
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Sanjay Vadlamani talks with Yvette Adams about how insider threats extend beyond malicious employees. They discuss negligent, malicious, and compromised insiders, along with the ways AI, remote work, cloud applications, and expanding access have increased organizational risk. The conversation also covers behavior monitoring, employee privacy, access management, offboarding, multidisciplinary risk teams, and the importance of connecting information across organizational silos before a threat becomes an incident. HOST: Sanjay Vadlamani, CIA, CISA, CRISC Senior Manager, Internal Audit, PayJoy GUEST: Yvette Adams, CIA, CRMA Director of Enterprise Risk Management, Zions Bancorporation KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:38] The Three Types of Insider Threats [00:00:39–00:03:19] How AI, Remote Work, and Cloud Applications Increase Risk [00:03:20–00:06:52] IIA Membership [00:06:53–00:07:38] Balancing Employee Monitoring, Privacy, and Trust [00:07:39–00:11:13] Indicators of Insider Risk [00:11:14–00:15:16] The FinWise Bank Incident and Offboarding Risk [00:15:17–00:18:48] Connecting Information Across Organizational Silos [00:18:49–00:22:47] Five Elements of a Mature Insider Risk Program [00:22:48–00:26:40] <li data-section-id="ejbhwq" data-st
- 2 weeks ago26 min
Beyond the Textbook: What Students See in Internal Audit
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, we hand the mic to seven students from across the US and Canada who are on their way into the internal audit profession, and ask them how they got here, what surprised them, we what they're still figuring out. They talk about what classrooms teach well, what only experience can provide, and why the work carries more weight than they expected. HOST: Catie Brown Associate Manager & Producer, Content Development, The IIA GUESTS Priya Bhatt— Texas A&M University Graduate Omar Ontiveros — Cal State Long Beach Graduate Olivia Gallagher — Accounting Student, Winthrop University Ryan Lam — Accounting Student, Southern Alberta Institute of Technology <a id= "OWA09d834c5-d872-69fe-5228-7e3f98328aa3" class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink" title="https://www.linkedin.com/in/moises-gutierrez-a3b769401/" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mo
- 3 weeks ago29 min
Human Capital Risk in an AI-Driven Workplace
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this companion episode to Internal Auditor magazine's "Human Capital Risk in an AI World" article, Tom Diamante talks with Manuel London and Richard Chan about how AI can help organizations identify behavioral, cultural, operational, and decision-making risks earlier, while also creating concerns around bias, surveillance, employee trust, and misuse. The conversation also explores internal audit's role in auditing AI, supporting responsible implementation, and helping organizations balance risk mitigation with innovation. HOST: Tom Diamante, Ph.D. President and Organizational Psychologist, Diamante Metrics LLC GUEST: Manuel London, Ph.D. Professor of Management, Stony Brook University Richard Chan, Ph.D. Professor, Stony Brook University KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00-00:00:42] Defining Human Capital Risk and AI's Role [00:00:43-00:04:13] Bias, Mistrust, and Employee Adoption [00:04:14-00:07:26] AI Monitoring and Surveillance Concerns [00:07:27-00:10:27] Internal Audit's Role in AI Governance [00:10:28-00:14:10] Responsible Deployment, Transparency, and Trust <span class="text-token-text-primary
- Aug 18, 202626 min
ERM as a Secret Weapon: How Internal Audit Can Own the Risk Conversation
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Charles King sits down with Shane Negangard to look at enterprise risk management not as a compliance exercise, but as one of the most powerful tools an internal audit leader can have -- if it's built and run the right way. They break down how to establish an ERM program from the ground up, secure executive buy-in, and use ERM as a flywheel for deeper relationships across the organization. HOST: Charles King, CIA, CCSA AI and Internal Audit Leader, KPMG GUEST: Shane Negangard, CIA, CRMA Head of Internal Audit, Workiva KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00:00-00:01:25] Technology, AI, and Evolving Internal Audit [00:01:26-00:03:46] Why ERM Is a "Secret Weapon" [00:03:47-00:05:46] Building Executive Buy-In for ERM [00:05:47-00:07:05] Making ERM More Than a Compliance Exercise [00:07:06-00:10:08] Risk Ownership, Trust, and Accountability [00:10:09-00:13:29] Turning Risk Discussions Into Action [00:13:30-00:15:47] Using AI to Strengthen ERM [00:15:48-00:18:03] Scenario Planning and ERM Maturity [00:18:04-00:19:25] Using ERM to Develop Internal Audit Teams [00:19:26-00:21:10] Expanding Risk Ownership Across the Organization [00:21:11-00:23:12] <li cl
- Aug 11, 202632 min
Building an AI Audit Mentor: Lessons from the Front Lines of Agentic AI
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this companion episode to Internal Auditor magazine's "The NextGen Audit Mentor," Marko Horvat sits down with Sarah Kuhn to explore how she built an AI-powered "audit mentor" to support auditor onboarding, training, and professional development. Kuhn shares how a simple idea to scale knowledge sharing evolved into an agentic AI tool that helps auditors learn, ask better questions, and navigate their careers. The conversation covers practical lessons for implementing AI, managing guardrails, fostering adoption, and ensuring AI enhances rather than replaces auditor judgment. HOST: Marko Horvat, CPA, Chief Financial Officer ,ELB Learning GUEST: Sarah Kuhn, CIA, CRMA, CCSA Principal Audit Consultant KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:01:30] Understanding Agentic AI and Identifying the Problem [00:01:31–00:04:27] Building and Testing the Audit Mentor [00:04:28–00:08:50] IIA Membership [00:08:51–00:09:27] Driving Adoption and Building Trust [00:09:28–00:13:02] Why the Tool Is a Mentor, Not an Answer Bot [00:13:03–00:17:14] Career Development, Coaching, and Quality Review [00:17:15–00:21:47] Preserving Auditor Judgment and Preventing Overreliance [00:21:48–00:25:42] Lessons Learned: Keeping AI Agents Focused [00:25:43–00:28:47] The Future of Agentic AI in Internal Audit [00:28:48–00:31:17] Final Thoughts [00:31:18–00:32:20] IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: The NextGen Audit Mentor — Internal Auditor magazine (August Issue) IIA Membership <a id="OWA58f7c37d-2a88-700b-babb-d534297f3e7a" class= "x_OWAAutoLink" title= "https://www.theiia.org/en/standards/2024-standards/global-internal-audit-standards/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=22100717904&utm_content=174821656482&utm_term=iia%20audit%20standards&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22100717904&gbraid=0AAAAADsnbmzrccWUNrcaezU3tqZKeGyb4&gclid=Cj0KCQjwucDBBhDxARIsANqFdr08xknZvGDSPOIRLC41f9Hk7-ycG2NaEy9tMs13xnjcEE9I-PeaowYaAkv0EALw_wcB" href= "https://www.theiia.org/en/standards/2024-standards/global-internal-audit-standards/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=22100717
- Aug 4, 20267 min
Prescription for Fraud: The $6 Million Kickback Scheme Hidden in a Job Title
All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "Prescription for Fraud" Listen to The IIA's Fraud Podcast, brought to you by All Things Internal Audit. The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine's Fraud department. In this episode, a struggling pharmacy gets an offer that sounds like a lifeline. But behind the paperwork sits a fake employee, a one-letter code, and a scheme that billed federal insurance programs nearly $11 million. Who finally pulled the thread? Access the full article here. Read the August issue here. Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate, available online and in-person. Chapters: Introduction [00:00-00:00:18] Part 1: The Pitch [00:00:19-00:02:03] Part 2: The Employee Who Wasn't [00:02:04-00:04:17] Part 3: The Lawsuit That Pulled the Thread [00:04:18-00:06:08] Fraud Red Flags and Lessons Learned [00:06:09-00:06:46] Closing and Fraud Resources [00:06:47-00:07:18] Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify Youtube LibsynDeezer
- Jul 29, 202627 min
From Pilot to Practice: How Internal Audit Functions Are Scaling GenAI
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, we're moving past the hype and getting into how internal audit functions are using GenAI now -- not in theory, not in three years, but today. Doris Myles sits down with Neil White to talk through where the biggest efficiency gains are happening, how to pick the right use cases when everything feels urgent, and why most functions aren't failing at GenAI: They're just stuck. White shares the framework he uses to prioritize AI investments, why building a prompt library is the most underrated action any function can take immediately, and what he believes internal audit will look like in 10 years. HOST: Doris Myles, CIA, CPADirector of Internal Audit, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital GUEST: Neil White Audit and Assurance Principal, Deloitte & Touche LLP KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00:00-00:00:43] Where GenAI Creates the Biggest Lift [00:00:43-00:02:34] From Automation to Agentic Reporting [00:02:34-00:04:31] Current Adoption and Internal Audit's Dual Role [00:04:31-00:06:51] Prioritizing Use Cases and Building a Prompt Library [00:06:51-00:10:58] Why GenAI Initiatives Stall [00:10:58-00:14:21] Gaining Enterprise and Leadership Alignment [00:14:21-00:16:38] Building Trust and Preserving Professional Skepticism [00:16:38-00:18:46] Explainability, Traceability, and Reliable Outputs [00:18:4
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All Things Internal Audit brings you real conversations, practical insights, and expert perspectives from across the profession. Produced by The Institute of Internal Auditors, each episode explores the challenges, innovations, and ideas shaping internal audit today. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of The IIA. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Visit www.theiia.org for more information.
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