In this episode of the AIGA Design Podcast, hosts Lee-Sean Huang and Giulia Donatello sit down with Giorgia Lupi to explore her journey from an architecture student and musician in Italy to a pioneer of data humanism and partner at Pentagram in New York City. Giorgia discusses her latest books, her Love Letter to the New York City subway, and why she recently broke up with ChatGPT. Whether you're a seasoned designer or a curious learner, Giorgia’s insights invite us to see data as a profoundly human, creative, and essential storytelling tool.TIMESTAMPS00:00 - Introduction to Giorgia Lupi and her focus on data humanism02:00 - Giorgia’s early influences: architecture, music, and data collection at her grandmother’s tailor shop05:00 - Spark moments: designing band album artwork and transitioning into data visualization06:40 - Discussing her book Speak Data and the process behind it09:00 - The human stories within data: interviews with leading thinkers on data’s meaning13:15 - The Dear Data project: weekly postcards and framing personal data conversations16:00 - Inspired by data visualizations and how personal relationships shape data storytelling18:00 - Data as a love letter to the NYC subway system: poetic visualization of transit data25:00 - Designing data for children: This Is Me and Only Me and engaging young audiences27:30 - The challenge of complex data: finding human stories in big or aggregated datasets30:20 - Designing the data set: choosing what to include and how to add context32:00 - Combining qualitative and quantitative data: mentoring teams and storytelling strategies34:30 - The evolving role of data in design and how to navigate cross-disciplinary data practices38:00 - Perspectives on AI: cautious optimism, data as a resource, and preserving human creativity43:00 - Inspirations and making for the sake of making: art exhibitions, painting, and experimentation45:30 - Final thoughts: cultivating critical thinking and curiosity in a data-driven worldREFERENCESOur previous episode of the AIGA Design Podcast with Giorgia Lupi from 2020: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/aigadesign/episodes/Giorgia-Lupi-on-Data-Humanism-ecs2f7Giorgia Lupi’s personal website: https://giorgialupi.com/Pentagram – The World’s Largest Independent Design Consultancy: https://www.pentagram.com/ Speak Data: Artists, Scientists, Thinkers, and Dreamers on How We Live Our Lives in Numbers: https://amzn.to/4qXAQl4 Dear Data: https://amzn.to/3Msgrqj This is Me and Only Me: https://amzn.to/46pMrlHA Data Love Letter to the Subway: https://www.mta.info/agency/arts-design/digital-art/data-love-letter Two Craigs Take on a 1-Year Performance Challenge (2025 AIGA Design Conference): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdjkZu_qvDM 2Craigs: https://www.2craigs.com/ Ruth Asawa, A Retrospective: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5768Wifredo Lam, When I Don’t Sleep I Dream at MoMA: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5788Alfred Jensen at the Pace Gallery: https://www.pacegallery.com/artists/alfred-jensen/
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