AI Rebels

Cavemen With Fire: Governing the AI Agent Fleet ft. Logan Kelly

April 15, 2026·57 min
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Everyone's shipping agents. Almost nobody is asking what happens when a hundred of them go off the rails at 100% utilization while a customer is on the other end. Logan Kelly — CEO of Waxell and a guy who's been punched in the face by real-world sales operations — joins us to argue that a dashboard isn't governance, it's an autopsy, and that most teams are "cavemen playing with fire, hoping there's a bucket of water somewhere." We get into why governance actually *accelerates* agent developme...

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