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- 2 weeks ago2h 3m
Ep. 59: Misogi Challenge with Kenan Jackson
In his book, "The Comfort Crisis," author Michael Easter writes, "Doing physically hard things is an enormous life hack. Do hard things and the rest of life gets easier and you appreciate it all the more.” In the book, he goes into great detail as to what a Misogi challenge is and what differentiates it from the plethora of other challenges we all face on a regular basis. The first rule of a Misogi is that it has to be really, really hard. In fact, when choosing to embark on a Misogi challenge there should be at least a 50% chance that you will fail. The second rule of the Misogi is don't die.As podcast host, Jesse Deubel was scaling the side of a near-vertical cliff following the route chosen by this podcast's guest, Kenan Jackson, it was that second rule that weighed heavy on Jesse's mind. As if he could sense Jesse's concern, Kenan paused his ascent and looked back and said to Jesse, "This reminds me of skydiving." "Why, because we should probably be wearing parachutes?" Jesse responded.Kenan laughed and explained that just as when he's jumped from airplanes the heightened adrenaline and mental awareness of being in a position where the continuation of life is not guaranteed somehow amplifies the gift that being alive is. "Like with skydiving, something could happen that's completely out of your control and that would be the end. If one of these rocks broke loose, we'd be done. They've probably been here for millions of years, but they're just teetering here, barely avoiding the gravitational pull that's yanking down on them and on us." "Yeah. Thanks for that reassurance." Kenan laughed. "We're almost to the top!" It turns out that "the top" is where Kenan prefers to spend his time. Just three weeks after Jesse and Kenan negotiated those cliffs on a barbary sheep hunt, Kenan was in Houston, TX voluntarily locked in an octagonal cage to fight the highly accomplished mixed martial artist Aaron Phillips, originally from Kotzebue, Alaska. In this episode, Jesse and Kenan talk about hunting, fighting, competing, respect and communication. They talk about the challenges life throws at us and how proactively choosing our own Misogi challenges can help us overcome those obstacles we didn't ask for. Enjoy the listen! For more info:NMWF Website
- Apr 1, 20261h 3m
Ep. 58: Andy Films and Hikes
This episode's guest, Andy Neal, is an outdoor and fashion model, filmmaker, producer, and content creator who has built a powerful presence across Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and Threads. His work has reached tens of millions of people, and he has gone viral numerous times through his nature focused storytelling, his honesty about mental health, and his signature Stupid Hike for My Stupid Mental Health series. With more than two hundred forty thousand followers on Instagram, fifty thousand on TikTok, ten thousand on YouTube, and eighty thousand on Facebook, Andy has become a trusted voice for people who want to connect with the outdoors in a real and accessible way.Andy creates content that centers on the outdoors, mental health, fitness, film, travel, photography, and public lands. His work is known for its cinematic style paired with genuine storytelling about survival, growth, and the long process of healing. His weight loss journey is a major part of that story. Andy once weighed more than four hundred pounds. Through consistency, therapy, hiking, and major changes in his relationship with food and movement, he has lost more than one hundred pounds and continues to move toward a healthier and more sustainable life. He often shares the truth behind the journey, including the mental health work, the GLP 1 chapter, and the process of learning to trust his body again. Andy uses his platform to remind people that healing is never linear but it is always possible.Huge thanks to Andy for carving some time out of his busty schedule to sit down with our host to share his story. Enjoy the Listen! Find Andy Neal on all social media platforms: @andyfilmsandhikes
- Feb 15, 20261h 9m
Ep. 57: NOT FOR SALE: A Conversation on Conservation with Senator Heinrich
From the roughest, driest deserts, to our towering, high-alpine peaks, Senator Martin Heinrich has explored the most remote public lands in New Mexico. As an avid hunter, angler, birder and forager, New Mexico's Senior United States Senator cherishes every opportunity to spend time outdoors. Sen. Heinrich is not shy about expressing his tremendous love for the state he proudly chooses to call home. His unwavering love for New Mexico and its wild places is always on clear display as he tenaciously represents the interests of all public land lovers while he carries out critical work in Washington, D.C. Conservationists from around the country and on both sides of the political aisle have come to recognize Sen. Heinrich as "America's Conservation Champion." In this episode, host Jesse Deubel is joined by Sen. Heinrich as well as two other hunting, fishing and conservation partners. Jeremy Vesbach and Jeremy Romero have both been on the show before. This is their first appearance together. Jeremy Vesbach is a former NM State Game Commissioner and the former executive director of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. Currently he serves as the Western Lands Director at Western Resource Advocates. Jeremy Romero is also a former staff member of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. Currently he works as the Wildlife Connectivity Manager at the National Wildlife Federation. In conservation circles these two Jeremy's are affectionately referred to as "Jeremy Squared."All four of these professional conservationists have the fortune of sharing time in the field on occasion. After a day of glassing for elk, calling to turkeys or drifting flies down a remote stream for trout, this team of advocates relaxes around a campfire discussing issues surrounding public lands, waters and wildlife. The conversation featured on this show provides listeners an opportunity to eavesdrop on one of these fireside-type chats. Their musings range from Capitol Hill to the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness and from the Gila to the Tongass National Forests. Enjoy the listen! For more info: NMWF Website
- Feb 1, 20261h 6m
Ep. 56: Keeping NM Wild
The New Mexico Wilderness Alliance [DBA: NM Wild] is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) grassroots organization dedicated to the protection, restoration, and continued enjoyment of New Mexico’s wildlands and wilderness areas. Founded in 1997, they achieve our mission through administrative protection, federal wilderness designation, and ongoing stewardship. NM Wild has a membership of individuals from all corners of New Mexico and across the nation. Their organizing efforts span the state and involve many diverse groups, including ranchers, sportsmen, land grants, acequia communities, tribal and religious leaders, scientists, youth, and community leaders. They have a proven track record of building diverse coalitions to protect our public lands.In this episode of the show, Jesse Deubel sits down with Mark Allison who has served as NM Wild's executive director for the past 13 years. For about half of that time, Jesse and Mark have worked very closely together on many shared conservation priorities. During this conversation these two conservation leaders reflect on many of their shared successes. They also outline current threats and the need to remain vigilant when it comes to protecting our public lands and access to them. Included in that defense strategy is the public's need to continue to communicate their love and support for public lands to elected officials.This duo of conservation leaders outlines the plan for this year's "Camo at the Capitol" event. The event will take place on February 6th, 2026 from 2:00pm - 4:00pm at New Mexico's State Capitol Building, The Roundhouse. All people who use and appreciate public land are invited to attend. If you're a hunter, wear your favorite camo gear to represent the hunting community and to make it known that we hunt, we vote and we matter. Regardless of what you wear, just make sure to be there. This episode will provide you with more information about that event, more information about NM Wild and a fireside-type chat between two friends who, as it turns out, have a lot in common. Enjoy the listen! For more info: NM Wild WebsiteNMWF Website
- Nov 9, 20251h 18m
Ep. 55: Conservation Musings with Brandon Butler
For this 55th episode of the show, it seemed appropriate to bring on the man responsible for starting the Ahi Va Podcast. In February of 2021 Brandon Butler was in New Mexico hunting over-the-counter barbary sheep with NMWF's executive director Jesse Deubel. As the two men drove to and from hunting spots they intermittently listened to a variety of hunting/conservation podcasts. As the owner of Driftwood Outdoors, Brandon was no stranger to podcasting.In fact, following a successful hunt Brandon and Jesse actually recorded an episode of the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast.If you're interested in listening to that episode it's episode #78: The Man in the Arena: Jesse Deubel. After recording the show, Brandon suggested that the New Mexico Wildlife Federation should have its own podcast and Jesse should be the host. After some reluctance, Jesse agreed and the show was born.The New Mexico Wildlife Federation owes a huge debt of gratitude to the Driftwood Outdoors team, specifically Nathan "Shags" McLeod and Brandon Butler for professionally producing the show each month. We've featured some interesting topics and spoken with some incredible people. We're happy that Brandon Butler's name is now added to that list of special guests. In this conversation Jesse and Brandon discuss a variety of conservation issues from corner crossing to chronic wasting disease and PFAS-forever chemicals. It's a great show with lots of twists and turns, a few laughs and plenty of wisdom being shared.Enjoy the Listen! For more info: Driftwod Outdoors YouTubeDriftwod Outdoors WebsiteDriftwod Outdoors FBDriftwod Outdoors Instagram
- Oct 1, 20251h 21m
Ep. 54: A Shooting Range for Everyone
The New Mexico Wildlife Federation is proud to announce our recently formed partnership with Legacy Ranch, a shooting range for everyone. At Legacy Ranch, their mission is to provide an exceptional experience for every customer and member while committing to quality across all aspects of their operation. Their focus remains on professionalism, safety, and innovation, ensuring that each venture enhances rather than compromises the overall experience. They strive to build a welcoming community where everyone feels a sense of belonging. By supporting local churches, non-profit organizations, and youth programs, they aim to give back and make a positive impact beyond the range. Legacy Ranch is more than just a shooting facility—it’s a destination where lasting memories and meaningful connections are made. Legacy Ranch is more than just a venue. Their 500 acres of breathtaking landscapes, majestic trees, and untouched wilderness create the perfect backdrop for the New Mexico Wildlife Federation's upcoming Outdoor Festival and Skills Competition. This location will serve as an exceptional facility to host our competitions which will include sporting clays, pistol shooting, 3D archery and much more. All of this will be taking place on this serene landscape where nature’s beauty takes center stage. The date of this event is February 28th, 2026 so put it on your calendar. On this episode of the Ahi Va Podcast Jesse Deubel sits down with Matthew Fuentes-Tanuz, one of the owners of Legacy Ranch to talk about the range, the upcoming NMWF event and a whole host of interesting and entertaining topics. We'll see you out at Legacy Ranch, but until then...enjoy the listen! For more info:NMWFLegacy Ranch InstagramLegacy Ranch FBLegacy Ranch YouTubeLegacy Ranch Website
- Sep 1, 20251h 30m
Ep. 53: NM Desert Bighorn Sheep
Less than 1% of hunters in the United States will ever harvest a bighorn sheep ram. One of the guests on this episode of the Ahi Va podcast talks about the disbelief he felt when he learned that he drew a very coveted tag for a Desert Bighorn Sheep in New Mexico's Fra Cristobal Range.Garett Hayes joins the show to talk about his recent experience and share the story of the hunt and the harvest with our listeners. Accompanying Garett on that hunt and on this episode is his good friend and hunting partner TJ Montoya. Our host, Jesse Deubel sits down with Garett and TJ to talk about all things wild sheep. Included in the discussion are thoughts regarding the recovery of this iconic North American species as well as threats to its future. In addition to recalling the details of the hunt, our guests share their thoughts on public versus private land conservation, the importance of helping new hunters and taking full advantage of our youthful abilities.There are some words of special appreciation for Blackhorn Guide Services, the owners of which are friends of the show and appeared on episode 18 of the Ahi Va Podcast. This is a fun and thoughtful conversation that will be appreciated by the 99+% of hunters who have never pursued a bighorn ram as much as it will appeal to those lucky enough to be in the <1% club.Congratulations on your induction to this prestigious group Garett Hayes! To everyone else, enjoy the listen! For more info: NMWF Website
- Aug 1, 20251h 19m
Ep. 52: Forest and Farm with Chrissy Streit
When Chrissy Streit met and later married an avid hunter she made it clear that she was never, ever going to hunt. As a very conscientious eater of animal protein, her opinions about hunting shifted over time. When the young couple began a family and the thought of both the origin and the content of the food they would feed their children came into play, Chrissy really began to experience a change of perspective. Now, a very accomplished hunter, gardener, forager and cook, Chrissy shares her journey with others online through her various "Forest and Farm" platforms. In this episode, Jesse Deubel and Chrissy Streit talk about Chrissy's transition from being accepting of hunting to becoming a hunter herself. She shares heartfelt stories about the experiences she's had and how it has helped shape her view of life, death and food. From hunting grouse to elk and growing and harvesting species from rabbits to lettuce this episode covers four natural food procurement options that minimize our dependence on the local grocery market. Hunting, fishing, gardening and foraging are all covered in this entertaining and educational conversation. At the root of it all is a reminder about the importance of understanding that all living organisms on this planet are connected. The consequences of humans becoming increasingly distanced from the natural world are real. Being in nature helps our minds and our souls and the [real] food it provides feeds our bodies. Hopefully when you finish listening to this one you'll want to get outside, get your hands dirty and touch grass. Until then, enjoy the listen! For more info:Forest and Farm FBForest and Farm InstagramNMWF Website
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About Ahi Va
Since 1914, the New Mexico Wildlife Federation has been protecting our state’s wildlife, habitat and public lands for all to enjoy. Now the federation is kicking off a new chapter, launching the Ahi Va Podcast to present information to inform and inspire New Mexicans to conserve our resources for future generations. Stay connected to learn about important issues and ways to take action.
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